MARCIA S. KRIEGER, Chief District Judge.
The Court briefly summarizes the pertinent facts here and elaborates in its analysis. According to SEB's Consolidated Amended Complaint, Defendant, The Western Union Company ("WU"), is "a global money movement and payment services provider." At the times pertinent herein, WU's "core component" was its "consumer-to-consumer" (or "C2C") international money transfer business, the fees on which account for more than 80% of WU's revenues. That business was facilitated by independent "agents" — retailers, bankers, gas stations, and other businesses worldwide which were affiliated with WU and authorized to initiate or receive a money transaction. Much of WU's business consisted of customers in the U.S. sending money to overseas recipients. Mexico was one of the most frequent destinations of such transfers and thus, revenues from the Mexico market are one of the largest single components of WU's C2C business.
The international nature of the C2C business makes it particularly susceptible to use by criminals of all stripes — drug dealers, human smugglers, terrorists, and others — to facilitate transactions and launder proceeds of crimes. SEB contends that, among C2C providers, WU was known to have particularly lax standards, such as a higher transaction amount threshold than other providers for which senders and recipients were required to identify themselves. In addition, WU was less willing that other C2C providers to make reports of patterns of suspicious activity. As a result, WU enjoyed an oversized presence in the market, particularly among those using the service for criminal purposes, and was able to command higher fees than other providers.
In 2001, the State of Arizona began an investigation into WU's compliance with its anti-money laundering policies and reporting obligations. In February 2010, WU resolved that investigation by entering into a settlement, referred to as the Southwest Border Agreement (or, simply the "Agreement"). Among other things, the Agreement required WU to pay nearly $100 million in penalties and fees, invest significantly in its regulatory compliance programs, comprehensively review its agent network for compliance with WU policies, and retain the services of an Independent Monitor to oversee ongoing compliance with the Agreement and regulations.
In this suit, SEB takes issue with subsequent statements and representations made by WU's officers (and certain other employees) about the cost and effect of the Agreement on WU's business. As discussed in more detail below, on specific dates between February 2012 and October 2012, WU officers made a variety of statements in which they touted WU's efforts at enacting stronger compliance protocols and projected opportunities for growth, including in Mexico. SEB contends that these representations were false. It contends that in reality, WU was having great difficulty vetting its network of 50,000 agents in Mexico, was being forced to disqualify several thousand agents in Mexico due to their inability to meet new compliance requirements (ultimately resulting in a 40% reduction in the size of WU's agent network in Mexico), and anticipated lowering its fees in the Latin American market in order to remain competitive with other C2C providers. On October 30, 2012, WU announced the reduction of its Mexico network and confirmed that the loss of business (in Mexico and elsewhere) resulted in a decline in overall revenues of more than 20%, with similar results expected for the next few quarters. This announcement caused WU's stock price to drop approximately 30% in value.
SEB asserts two claims: (ii) securities fraud in violation of Section 10(b) and Rule 10(b)(5) of the Securities and Exchange Act, 15 U.S.C. § 78(j)(b) and 17 C.F.R. § 240.10b-5; and (ii) control person liability by each of the individual named Defendants pursuant to 15 U.S.C. § 78t(a).
The Defendants moved to dismiss
The Magistrate Judge recommended
SEB filed timely Objections
The Court reviews the objected-to portions of the Recommendation de novo. Fed. R. Civ. P. 72(b).
In reviewing a motion to dismiss pursuant to Rule 12(b)(6), the Court must accept all well-plead allegations in the Complaint as true and view those allegations in the light most favorable to the nonmoving party. Stidham v. Peace Officer Standards and Training, 265 F.3d 1144, 1149 (10
A claim is subject to dismissal if it fails to state a claim for relief that is "plausible on its face." Ashcroft v. Iqbal, 129 S.Ct. 1937, 1949 (2009). To make such an assessment, the Court first discards those averments in the Complaint that are merely legal conclusions or "threadbare recitals of the elements of a cause of action, supported by mere conclusory statements." Id. at 1949-50. The Court takes the remaining, well-pled factual contentions, treats them as true, and ascertains whether those facts (coupled, of course, with the law establishing the requisite elements of the claim) support a claim that is "plausible" or whether the claim being asserted is merely "conceivable" or "possible" under the facts alleged. Id. at 1950-51. What is required to reach the level of "plausibility" varies from context to context, but generally, allegations that are "so general that they encompass a wide swath of conduct, much of it innocent," will not be sufficient. Khalik v. United Air Lines, 671 F.3d 1188, 1191 (10
To state a claim of securities fraud under Section 10(b), SEB must allege: (i) that a defendant made an untrue or misleading statement of material fact or failed to state a material fact necessary to make its actual statements not misleading; (ii) that the statement at issue was made in conjunction with the purchase or sale or securities; (iii) that the defendant acted with the requisite scienter — that is with the intent to defraud or with recklessness; (iv) that the plaintiff relied upon the misleading statements; and (v) that the plaintiff suffered damages as a result. Halliburton Co. v. Erica P. John Fund, Inc., 134 S.Ct. 2398, 2407 (2014); In re Level 3 Commnications, Inc. Securities Litigation, 667 F.3d 1331, 1333 (10
Because SEB's claims here sound in securities fraud, SEB is subject to additional pleading requirements under Fed. R. Civ. P. 9(b) and the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act ("PSLRA"), 15 U.S.C. § 78u-4(b). For each alleged fraudulent statement, SEB must specify the particular misleading statement, identify the reasons why it is misleading, and state the facts upon which SEB forms its belief as to those matters. Id. For allegations of each Defendant's scienter, SEB must state with particularity facts that give rise to a strong inference that the Defendant acted with the requisite state of mind. Id.
SEB's Complaint extensively recites various statements that SEB alleges were fraudulent or misleading. The Court addresses each of those statements, either in the text of its analysis or, as identified below, in an Appendix. Those statements can be generally grouped into four categories: (i) statements suggesting that WU's compliance-related activities would amount to a "competitive advantage" over its rivals; (ii) statements describing WU's "pricing investment" in 2011 and 2012, as well as forecasting it in the future; (iii) statements predicting growth worldwide; and (iv) specific statements about the Mexico C2C market. The Court addresses each in turn.
First, SEB takes issue with numerous statements by the Defendants that touted WU's increased compliance efforts and anti-money laundering policies as a "competitive advantage," a "long-term investment," "the industry standard," or other phrases that suggested that the issue as a positive trait of WU's business.
For purposes of simplicity in analysis, the Court will not set forth herein the statements SEB challenges; instead, the Court will generally summarize the statements here and set them forth verbatim in the Appendix.
The Court declines to address these various statements individually, as it is apparent that they cannot possibly constitute actionable misstatements. The statements in question are vague suggestions that WU would be a leader or trend-setter in the future, or that it was better positioned than its rivals to meet broad challenges. These are the kind of "rosy affirmations commonly heard from corporate managers and numbingly familiar to the marketplace — loosely optimistic statements that are so vague, so lacking in specificity that no reasonable investor could find them important." See L-3 Communications, 667 F.3d at 1340 (statements that "the integration of all the acquired companies is progressing well and we're beginning to see the benefits of synergies from those transactions" and "the overall integration effort is tracking within expectations in this regard and the overall customer experience is still positive" were non-actionable).
SEB alleges that these statements are misleading because: (i) WU was slow in achieving compliance, to the point that by June 2012, it had a backlog of more than 50,000 agents on whom background checks needed to be conducted, requiring WU to hire more than 50 additional employees to address those checks; (ii) that WU's delay in achieving compliance was so significant that by as late as 2014, the State of Arizona was prepared to declare WU in material breach of the Agreement; and (iii) WU was aware that its compliance activities were causing it to lose large numbers of agents in its Mexico network.
The Court finds that, notwithstanding SEB's allegations, nothing in the statements is misleading. The statements are patently true on their face — compliance with hundreds of discrete national and international regulations is difficult and costly, and those difficulties and costs also serve to discourage competitors from attempting to match the breadth of WU's market. SEB may be correct in recognizing a degree of hypocrisy by WU when, pre-Agreement, it was happy to accommodate criminal use of its network in exchange for charging premium prices, but post-agreement it became a fervent evangelizer for diligent legal compliance. WU's sudden conversion might seem convenient, but the Complaint alleges no facts to suggest that WU's pro-compliance statements in 2012 were so insincere as to be deceptive. The Complaint does not, for example, point to internal criticism by the Defendants of WU's compliance activities or detail a concerted internal scheme to evade compliance obligations wherever possible. WU's decision to embrace the benefits of strict regulatory compliance may have been sudden and opportunistic, but the Complaint has not alleged any facts to suggest that it was misleading.
Moreover, the fact that WU may have been slow in completing its compliance activities does not render the statements misleading. The Complaint does not allege that at any time during 2012 WU suggested that its compliance activities (in Mexico or elsewhere) were complete, that they would be completed imminently, or that they would be simple or easy to achieve. To the contrary, the Defendants often spoke about compliance obligations as "complex," "changing constantly," and carrying both one-time and ongoing "costs" that would have to be paid. No reasonable investor hearing any of the statements listed in the Complaint on the subject of compliance would understand that WU was somehow representing that it had, by that point in time, fully-completed its obligations under the Agreement. To the contrary, in remarks in May 2012, Mr. Scheirman made clear that, to comply with the Agreement, "[w]e have to, if you will, enable 60,000 locations in a short amount of time with training, technology, agent implementation, and so forth," and clearly conveyed that the task had yet to be completed, telling investors that, in the future, WU would have some information about "what those costs [of doing so] might look like."
Accordingly, the Court categorically rejects SEB's arguments that any of WU's statements about its compliance activities being "a competitive advantage" or an "investment" or any other statements promoting WU's activities in the area of regulatory compliance are actionable misrepresentations.
Next, several number of statements cited by SEB relate to comments by the Defendants forecasting WU's "pricing investment" in 2012 and beyond. Because these statements do not generally vary in content, the Court merely summarizes them here, quoting them in full in the Appendix. Throughout most of 2012, WU frequently advised analysts and investors that its "pricing investment" in 2011 had been 1%, and that WU anticipated that it would be between 1% and 2% in 2012. In its disappointing October 30, 2012 announcement (the last day of the class period), WU informed investors that its pricing investment for
In addition to the statements themselves, SEB alleges that a witness known as CW1 "recalled seeing strategy memos that noted the expectation of losing agents in Mexico," and which outlined proposals for WU to revise its pricing strategy in the Mexico market to reduce fees and increase agent commissions in order to retain the loyalty of agents (presumably at the cost of reducing WU's own revenue). The Complaint does not, however, place these memos in any particular temporal context, making it difficult to ascertain from the Complaint when discussions of a new pricing strategy first appeared. Nor does it expressly allege that the contents of such memos were known to the Defendants. The Complaint addresses the matter somewhat obliquely, stating that CW1 "believed that the source of these strategy memos" were the Defendants "because . . . these individuals were responsible for pricing determinations" and because "corporate strategy was set by individual at a higher level at Western Union than the Steering Committee," but beyond CW1's belief and supposition, the Complaint does not specifically indicate that the Defendants knew of the pricing memos.
The Court agrees with the Defendants that nearly all of the statements cited by SEB merely repeat that WU was predicting that its pricing investment would remain at 1%-2% through 2012. There is nothing misleading about such a statement, as it appears to be undisputed that WU's pricing investment for 2012 was indeed in the 1% range; WU's October 30, 2012 statement that allegedly caused investor consternation was that its
However, the Court takes particular note of a single statement made by Mr. Ersek on July 24, 2012. During the conference call on that date, an analyst asked for "a good price trend line
The Court answers these questions in the negative. Assuming that Mr. Ersek's prediction on July 24, 2012 was that 2013's pricing investment would remain consistent with 2012's, SEB alleges that this prediction was misleading because Mr. Ersek was aware of difficulties in the Mexico market that might require WU to make a number of price modifications there. But it is clear from the context of the statements that Mr. Ersek's pricing investment predictions were
A number of statements cited by SEB involve the Defendants making generalized statements of their belief that there is room for "growth" in the C2C market or statements about WU's desire to pursue and achieve more growth in that business. Once again, the Court sees fit to corral these allegations to the Appendix and to merely summarize them here. All of the statements at issue refer generally to WU's
SEB alleges that these statements are misleading because, at the time the Defendants made them, the Defendants were aware of the shrinking network of compliant agents in Mexico and the inevitable decline that the loss of those agents would have on WU's Mexico business. Even assuming that SEB is correct and that the Defendants always apprehended that compliance with the Agreement would result in diminished revenues in Mexico in 2012 and beyond, nothing in the record suggests that the Defendants did not simultaneously retain a justifiably optimistic forecast for continued growth in the C2C business
• On February 7, 2012, an analyst from William Blair & Company asked about WU's "growth rate," asking "do you think [you're] losing some market share now? I mean, the World Bank is looking for — I think upper mid-single digit transaction growth. I mean we saw MoneyGram [a competitor] report mid double-digit, like near, I think 13% transaction growth. I mean are some of these issues in Mexico and Italy and Russia,
• On July 24, 2012, Mr. Ersek stated that "In 2012, we remain
• At that same event, Mr. Scheirman also made lengthy and detailed remarks. Although SEB does not specifically mention Mr. Scheirman's remarks about Mexico, he stated "
These statements make clear that although Mexico (and other countries) were struggling, WU nevertheless believed that growth in other markets in their "diversified portfolio" would "offset" losses in those struggling markets, allowing WU to continue to experience global growth.
As discussed below, by June 2012, WU might arguably have had a more concrete basis to gauge the potential magnitude of the loss of agents in Mexico. In other words, by July 2012, WU officials should have been aware that the compliance problems in Mexico were something beyond simple "challenges" and were threatening to dramatically hurt the Mexico business. In such circumstances, for WU's predictions of continued global growth to remain accurate, WU would have to have anticipated equally dramatic growth in other markets; put differently, if SEB could allege facts showing that, in June and July 2012, WU did not or could not reasonably anticipate explosive growth in markets outside of Mexico, it may have been misleading for it to predict global growth knowing that the situation in Mexico, one of its larger markets, was potentially becoming catastrophic.
The current version of the Complaint does not recognize that WU's predictions of growth were global in nature, nor does it acknowledge the possibility that business growth outside of Mexico could offset business losses within Mexico. Thus, it does not currently suffice to demonstrate that WU's statements about global growth were misleading. However, it may be possible for SEB to assert facts showing that, in June and July 2012, WU both appreciated the potentially dramatic problems looming in Mexico and, simultaneously, could not point to other markets where reasonable forecasts of growth would be sufficient to offset potential losses in Mexico. With these additional allegations, SEB might be able to make a plausible assertion that WU's post-June 2012 predictions of global growth were misleading and made with sufficient scienter. Accordingly, the Court dismisses the securities fraud claims as currently pled with regard to WU's predictions of global growth without prejudice.
The remaining statements are those in which the Defendants specifically discuss the Mexico market and the nature and consequences of WU's compliance-related activities therein.
Before the Court turns to addressing the particular statements, it is necessary to further subdivide this category of statements into those occurring prior to June 2012 and those occurring during or after June 2012. SEB's claims here derive from two major factual contentions, one temporally located before June 2012 and one located in June 2012.
A key provision in the Agreement required WU to retain the services of an independent Monitor who would oversee WU's compliance with legal and regulatory requirements. The Monitor would devise an "Implementation Plan" that evaluated WU's existing compliance program and would make recommendations to further implement or improve that program. The Complaint appears to allege that WU first retained the Monitor on February 21, 2010, but that the Monitor did not begin issuing recommendations until "the middle of 2011." (Another portion of the Complaint appears to place this date at "mid-to-late 2011.") According to a witness identified as CW1, a Vice President at WU, "things began hitting the fan" at this time, as WU realized that it would have to "migrate the systems of its Vigo and Orlandi Valuta agents" — that is, agents that were associated with two of WU's lower-cost brands that were particularly popular in Mexico and Latin America — "onto the Company's Norkom platform in order to comply with the recommendations." This process was expected to "take a lot of time, effort, and expense to do." CW1 "recalled that agents began leaving the company around mid-summer 2011," due to requirements that they update their own equipment to the Norkom platform and engage in other compliance measures, but the Complaint does not attempt to quantify the scope of agent losses at this time, either numerically or descriptively. At some point in time, probably summer 2011, WU reassigned Victoria Lopez-Negrete, then a Senior Vice President of the WU's North American unit, to what the Complaint calls a "rescue mission": the task of developing and implementing "strategies to retain the Company's agents in Mexico."
Thus, by SEB's allegations, the factual scenario that informed the Defendants' statements prior to June 2012 consisted of: (i) concerns about the difficulties of migrating agents handling WU's low-priced brands onto a new, more secure technology platform; (ii) an unspecified number of agents leaving or having already left the network; and (iii) the fact that WU had reassigned Ms. Lopez-Negrete specifically to address the previous two points. With these facts in mind, the Court turns to the Mexico-related comments made by the Defendants at this time (again, bolded text is that emphasized by SEB in its Complaint):
• On February 7, 2012, on a conference call to address WU's 2011 financial results and its 2012 financial outlook, a Barclay's analyst stated ". . . last question on Mexico. Can you give a lot more color on what exactly you are doing there? I just maybe, and I know you mentioned before, how you expect a little bit of slower trend, but maybe give us a little more explanation?" Mr. Ersek responded "If you look at our Mexico business, it's
• On April 24, 2012, during a conference call discussing WU's first quarter 2012 earnings, an analyst asked "Can you just quickly update us on the compliance situation in Mexico? How is that progressing and by when do you expect to be in some compliance?" Mr. Ersek responded ". . .
• Earlier in that same call, Mr. Scheirman gave a lengthy briefing, during which he stated "Turning to North America, the region's revenues increased 5% compared to 2% last quarter . . . Mexico improved from last quarter with both revenue and transactions increasing 3% in the quarter. As we mentioned in February, we are still determining and implementing changes to our compliance-related practices in Mexico. Although we still expect to see
• On May 9, 2012, at an Investor Day presentation, Ms. Lopez-Negrete reported on WU's activities in North America: "And growing Mexico for the better, we've been in Mexico over 150 years. Mexico is the perfect example about how Western Union evolves with its agents and evolves with the environment. Mexico is the 12
The Complaint recites certain additional factual developments that began occurring at some point in June 2012. According to SEB, in June 2012, WU hired a group of 30-35 additional employees to assist it in vetting a backlog of 50,000-60,000 agents operating in the southwest border area.
These allegations form what is perhaps the central theme of SEB's allegations: that beginning in June 2012, the Defendants were aware (or, at least, were becoming aware) that some two-thirds of their agent network in Mexico could not be brought into compliance with the terms required by the Agreement. The loss of that many agents would likely result in large declines in revenues in Mexico and require WU to take aggressive and expensive steps to court new agents and/or retain existing ones. SEB alleges that the Defendants made the following statements with these facts in mind:
• During a July 24, 2012 conference call concerning WU's second quarter earnings, a William Blair analyst asked for "a little more color maybe on North America, Mexico, and some of the troubled regions on some of the trends that you saw there? I think you outperformed what you thought in the first quarter; you certainly had pointed towards trouble in Mexico in the second quarter. Could you go over, again, the growth rates in North America and Mexico and what you expect over the next several quarters?" Mr. Ersek responded "I think the Mexico business, North America outbound to Mexico business has been meeting our expectations.
• During that same call, a Credit Suisse analyst asked for "a little more color in terms of your turnaround strategies for Mexico and Russia." Mr. Ersek responded "I think 2012 will be still both countries
The Court must first consider whether any of the statements discussed above constitute misrepresentations. It is undisputed that none of the statements are literally false. Instead, SEB alleges that the statements contain material omissions, in that although the Defendants might have warned investors of various "challenges" and "impacts" that the compliance efforts would have on revenues in Mexico, it failed to warn them of the
However, it is axiomatic that a defendant is only required to disclose facts that are known to him or her. Knowledge is addressed in the scienter element, which requires a plaintiff to allege facts showing "the defendant knew of the potentially material fact" and "knew that failure to reveal the potentially material fact would likely mislead investors." In re Zagg, Inc. Securities Litigation, ___ F.3d ___, 2015 WL 4901893 (10
Here, the Court finds that, for time periods prior to June 2012, SEB has failed to adequately allege either a material omission or the requisite scienter on the part of any Defendant. The Complaint alleges that "agents began leaving the Company around mid-summer 2011." This statement is pregnant with ambiguity in two respects: the number of agents doing the leaving could be a trickle or a torrent, and "began leaving" is a verb tense that describes an action occurring over an indefinite period of time. If the true facts are that hundreds or thousands of agents dropped out of WU's Mexico network between mid-2011 and February 7 or May 9, 2012, the Court might be inclined to find that a reasonable investor would find that information more significant than mere generalized assertions of "changes" and "negative impacts" affecting the agent network, making such information material. On the other hand, if the scale of defections between mid-2011 and mid-2012 was only a few dozen agents or a mere handful, or if the flow rate was minimal at the beginning of the time period and increased significantly close to the end, the Court might be inclined to find such facts to be immaterial in light of the general statements made by the Defendants. The Complaint is simply too vague to permit an inference to be drawn one way or the other. Although SEB alleges that the changes were important enough to cause WU to reassign Ms. Lopez-Negrete to undertake a "rescue mission" (it is not clear from the Complaint whether this is Ms. Lopez-Negrete's wording, the impression of CW1, or simply argument by SEB), that characterization is not particularly meaningful, insofar as it appears to be undisputed that Herculean efforts were going to be necessary to address the Monitor's recommendations in such a large agent network in any event. Nor does CW1's colorful description of things "hitting the fan" and it being "not a happy time" at WU after the Monitor issued recommendations in mid-2011 provide any meaningful guidance about the number of agent defections that were occurring and when. Without providing some means of ascertaining the significance of the number of agent defections occurring between 2011 and June 2012, SEB has not carried its burden of alleging facts sufficient to demonstrate a plausible claim. (Once again, this defect may be curable by amendment, however.)
The analysis is somewhat different after June 2012. At that point in time, WU had ascertained a need to process a backlog of checks on some 50,000 agents and retained additional employees, like CW2, to do so.
The William Blair analyst on the July 24, 2012 conference call inquired about "the growth rates in North America and Mexico and what you expect over the next several quarters." Mr. Ersek responded that WU expected "some slow down," and Mr. Scheirman expected "some challenges" there. But the Court agrees with SEB that a reasonable investor would consider the
Accordingly, the Court finds that SEB has pled sufficient facts to state a claim for securities fraud with regard to Mr. Ersek and Mr. Scheirman's failure to disclose the troubling extent to which agents were failing compliance checks as of July 24, 2012.
For the foregoing reasons, the Court
• Mr. Ersek stated "
• During a question-and-answer session, an analyst from Deutsche Bank stated "It sounds like compliance and regulatory challenges are hampering the growth rate in several countries, Italy, Mexico, China," and asked "do you worry that could spread to other nations?" Mr. Ersek responded ". . . I think [WU] . . .
• In introductory remarks, Mr. Ersek took an opportunity to "remind [listeners] about our strengths of the Company. These strengths separate us from the competitors —
• Later, Mr. Ersek continued his remarks: "So, many investors always ask me, why you, Hikmet —
• Later in his remarks, Mr. Scheirman stated "And I do want to mention Dodd-Frank this morning, that as we begin to implement that in 2012 we believe we'll incur some one-time incremental costs to implement Dodd-Frank and some ongoing costs too. But as Hikmet mentioned,
• During his closing remarks, Mr. Ersek stated "We are changing the company. We are taking to the next level. We put the fundamentals and the beauty of that is that we are building on our existing assets. We have the global brand awareness. We have the global network.
• In Mr. Ersek's opening remarks, he addressed how a "strength of Western Union is the global organization [of] agent resources," touting WU's 500,000 locations. He continued on, "
• During a question-and-answer session, an analyst asked "why wouldn't I just send money cross-border on Pay Pal? What disintermediation risks do you most fear? And why is somebody wrong to suggest that something like a Pay Pal or an iTunes could end up being a significant risk for you, or the mobile communications companies?" Mr. Ersek responded ". . . I think first of all you have to build the fundamentals we have done for many, many years. We be now in, as I mentioned, in 500,000 locations in 200 countries — somebody has to do that. It's not easy to build that.
• A J.P. Morgan analyst asked "The compliance costs moving up, do you think this will eventually apply to some of your smaller peers as well and perhaps, ease some of the competition, especially in pricing, going forward?" Mr. Ersek responded "it's upgrading our compliance.
• Defendant Stockdale gave a speech at the University of Denver, stating: "
• A Goldman Sachs analyst asked about "the strategy that you laid out back in 2010." The analyst stated "[A]s we go into 2010, it feels like you have to do more in the way of incremental investments to sort of keep pace. Is that the economy that's driving some of the requirements for incremental investments? Is there more competition? So if you could just help us bridge the gap between what you sort of laid out as your investment strategy in 2010, versus where you are now in 2012, where is the change on the margin, in the sense that you actually have to go out and invest more to stay competitive?" Mr. Ersek gave a lengthy response addressing various areas of business before concluding with a reference to "the consumers," which the Court understands to be a reference to WU's C2C business sector. As to that issue, Mr. Ersek stated, somewhat cryptically, "That needs some investments, to[o] — around the consumers, and that is what we are really doing on that part. I wouldn't say that's a big pricing invest — a big pricing challenge in globally,
• Talk turned to how at least one large agent in Mexico, Electra, had ended its exclusivity arrangement with WU and was working with both WU and its competitors. After several questions and answers about the issue of agent exclusivity, an analyst asked "Are you concerned that like Coke, Pepsi . . . it's more pricing competition when you're sharing shelf space?" Mr. Scheirman responded "we've seen over the years, go back five or 10 years, a lot of competition, many competitors in the marketplace. And today we only stand at about an 18% share. We do believe our brand, our agent network of 485,000 locations
• A Sun Trust analyst stated "I didn't hear any discussion today even a little about pricing. And it strikes me that — a couple of things, pricing seems to have gotten a little more stable in the last year or two. You've got thousands of global corridors across which pricing pressure is very different. So how sophisticated are your pricing models? How much of an opportunity you looking at to arbitrage across all these corridors and maybe view that more as a revenue growth opportunity rather than the headwind it's been for the last several years?" An "unidentified company representative" responded ". . . you were led to believe over the years that we were going to do 1% to 3% usually in a decline. If you saw the last couple of years that's been reversed. And this year it'll probably be in the
• An analyst stated: "I want to ask about pricing. It's still only a modest negative. it seems like it's lower than historical trends, except for sporadic pricing initiatives. What's a good price trend line for the next 12 months? Negative 1 to negative 2? or will it get back to a historical negative 2 to 3?" Mr. Ersek responded "I think generally as we are looking corridor by corridor on our pricing,
• An analyst stated "Western Union has become one of the cheapest stocks in the processing space, my coverage universe, and I've covered it for a long time. There's always been this, kind of this dinosaur, bear case out there. Can you say here that you're confident that the core C2C business, the business model is intact and you can grown the core C2C business over time?" Mr. Ersek responded "Yes, Jim,
• An analyst followed up with the question "So not to put you on the spot, but do you think it's a 5% growth over a long period of time, is it — can you grow faster, can you accelerate the growth?" Mr. Scheirman responded "Clearly, our objective is we want to grow faster, gain market share at an accelerated pace, although we don't give long-term guidance for our objectives. But what I would point you towards, Jim, is I-80, if you just look at near term, 2011, 2012, they estimate the cross-border remittance market is growing in that 5% range. We clearly feel like
• Mr. Ersek concluded his introductory remarks by stating: "
• After Mr. Ersek's opening remarks, Mr. Scheirman made some remarks. He stated "And as Hikmet mentioned, were keenly focused on three growth areas. And
• During the question-and-answer period, an analyst from Janney Capital Markets stated "given the macro headwinds, the slowdown in global trade and other challenges that are impacting the core consumer business, you still kept your full-year revenue guidance unchanged. I'm wondering if there were some offsets that you can call out as far as other areas of the business that are exceeding expectations or maybe just add some other comments around why you kept the revenue guidance unchanged given those factors?" Mr. Scheirman responded "Overall, if you look at the C2C business, it's 80% of our revenues and that's had good, solid, consistent performance on a year-to-date basis. You're seeing growth very strong there at the 4% range, so we're at the higher end, just on a year-to-date basis." He mentioned other business sectors that were performing well, and concluded ". . . But
• A Citigroup analyst asked about "intra-corridor trends for C2C," explaining how "the only geo[graphic corridor] with negative transaction growth was Europe, but just for Europe as well as other geos how did transactions trend each month in the quarter . . .?" Mr. Scheirman responded "I'd say the broad headline is
The Court notes that the transcripts are either fairly rough or the Defendants' oral statements are particularly inartful, as the transcripts contain a host of grammatical errors, mismatched verb tenses, sentence fragments, and awkward punctuation. In quoting from the transcripts in this Order, the Court has preserved the precise content of the transcripts themselves, rather than attempting to correct or streamline it. Moreover, this Court has bolded the quoted text to match the bold text used by SEB in its Complaint to provide emphasis.