In the

    United States Court of Appeals
                 For the Seventh Circuit
                     ____________________
No. 17-1727
SCOTT SCHMIDT,
                                                Petitioner-Appellant,

                                 v.

BRIAN FOSTER,
                                               Respondent-Appellee.
                     ____________________

         Appeal from the United States District Court for the
                   Eastern District of Wisconsin.
          No. 13-CV-1150 — Charles N. Clevert, Jr., Judge.
                     ____________________

     ARGUED JANUARY 4, 2018 — DECIDED MAY 29, 2018
                     ____________________

   Before WOOD, Chief Judge, and HAMILTON and BARRETT,
Circuit Judges.
    HAMILTON, Circuit Judge. Petitioner Scott Schmidt mur-
dered his wife, Kelly Wing-Schmidt. He admitted the murder
but tried to rely on the state-law defense of “adequate provo-
cation” to mitigate the crime from first- to second-degree
homicide. A state trial judge denied Schmidt the assistance of
his counsel while the judge questioned Schmidt in a pretrial
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hearing on that substantive issue. Under law clearly estab-
lished by the Supreme Court of the United States, the eviden-
tiary hearing on that substantive issue was a “critical stage”
of Schmidt’s prosecution. By denying Schmidt the assistance
of counsel in that critical stage, the state court violated his
Sixth Amendment right to counsel.
    The Sixth Amendment guarantees the accused in a crimi-
nal case “the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.” Because
“an unaided layman” has “little skill in arguing the law or in
coping with an intricate procedural system,” the Supreme
Court has long held that the right to counsel extends beyond
the trial itself. United States v. Ash, 

, 307 (1973).
Criminal prosecutions involve “critical confrontations” be-
fore trial “where the results might well settle the accused’s
fate.” United States v. Wade, 

, 224 (1967). The Sixth
Amendment therefore guarantees defendants “the guiding
hand of counsel” at all “‘critical’ stages of the proceedings.”

quoting Powell v. Alabama, 

, 69 (1932).
   Since Schmidt admitted having murdered his wife, the
only substantive issue in the prosecution was whether he
acted under “adequate provocation,” which in Wisconsin
would mitigate homicide from first to second degree. The
prosecution opposed Schmidt’s intended defense, arguing be-
fore trial that he had failed to offer “some evidence” of prov-
ocation, which would be sufficient to shift the burden of per-
suasion to the state to disprove provocation beyond a reason-
able doubt. The trial court chose to address this critical sub-
stantive issue before trial.
   After a hearing where counsel debated the defense’s writ-
ten summary of evidence of provocation, the trial court held
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an unprecedented ex parte, in camera hearing. The judge al-
lowed Schmidt’s counsel to attend the hearing but, critically,
did not allow him to speak or participate. Instead, the judge
questioned Schmidt directly. After listening to Schmidt’s an-
swers, the judge ruled that Schmidt could not present the ad-
equate provocation defense at trial. A jury convicted Schmidt
of first-degree intentional homicide, and he was sentenced to
life in prison.
    Schmidt sought post-conviction relief, and the Wisconsin
Court of Appeals held that the trial court did not violate
Schmidt’s Sixth Amendment right to counsel. That decision
was an unreasonable application of clearly established Su-
preme Court precedent guaranteeing counsel at all critical
stages of criminal proceedings, including whenever “poten-
tial substantial prejudice to defendant’s rights inheres in the
particular confrontation.” 

. Schmidt
therefore meets the stringent standards for habeas corpus re-
lief under 28 U.S.C. § 2254(d)(1). 1
I. Factual & Procedural Background
   In April 2009, Schmidt shot his wife, Kelly Wing-Schmidt,
seven times. She died in their driveway. When police officers




    1  The usual relief in such a case would be to order the State either to
release Schmidt or to retry him. A different remedy may be appropriate
here. In the district court, the State requested the option to ask the state
trial court to modify the judgment of conviction to second-degree inten-
tional homicide and to resentence Schmidt accordingly. In briefing in this
appeal, Schmidt says he agrees with that request. On remand, the district
court should consider that option, in addition to the usual choices of retrial
or release.
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arrived, they found Schmidt standing by her body. He quickly
admitted he had shot her.
    A. The Trial Court Proceedings
    Wisconsin charged Schmidt with first-degree intentional
homicide. Schmidt never denied shooting and killing Kelly,
but he intended to argue at trial that he acted with “adequate
provocation.” In Wisconsin, adequate provocation is an af-
firmative defense that mitigates intentional homicide from
first to second degree for defendants who “lack self-control
completely at the time of causing death.” Wis. Stat. §§ 939.44;
940.01(2)(a). To be “adequate,” the provocation must be “suf-
ficient to cause complete lack of self-control in an ordinarily
constituted person.” § 939.44. If the defendant can produce
“some” evidence supporting adequate provocation before
trial, then the defendant may introduce evidence of the de-
fense at trial. State v. Schmidt, 

, 843 (Wis. App.
2012), citing State v. Head, 

, 439 (Wis. 2002). The
prosecution must then disprove the defense beyond a reason-
able doubt. 

, citing 

–38.
    Schmidt filed a pretrial motion disclosing that he would
present evidence of provocation through “false allegations,
controlling behaviors, threats, isolation, unfaithfulness, ver-
bal abuse and arguments.” Schmidt planned to present evi-
dence that his wife had abused him emotionally and physi-
cally throughout their marriage. He would have testified that
right before the shooting, he and Kelly had a heated argument
in which Kelly taunted him about an affair he had just discov-
ered, told him their children were not actually his, and threat-
ened to make up stories so that he would never see their chil-
dren again. According to Schmidt, he lost self-control and
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shot his wife. The State objected to the evidence, arguing that
Schmidt’s disclosure lacked specificity and that the circum-
stances did not support an adequate provocation defense. The
State also argued that Schmidt did not clarify the timeframe
covered by his proposed evidence and that evidence dating
back too far would be irrelevant and prejudicial.
    The court acknowledged the State’s concerns. Over
Schmidt’s objection, the court scheduled a hearing to deter-
mine whether Schmidt had met the some-evidence standard
and could present the defense at trial. Before the hearing,
Schmidt submitted two documents: an offer of proof summa-
rizing the testimony of twenty-nine potential witnesses and a
legal analysis of the provocation defense with a timeline of
events from 2004 through the 2009 shooting.
    The evidentiary hearing began in court with Schmidt, his
lawyer, and the prosecutor present. The judge was not pre-
pared to decide on the paper submissions alone whether
Schmidt could meet the “some evidence” threshold for the
provocation defense. Schmidt’s lawyer objected to having to
expose his defense evidence before trial. The judge decided
that he should question Schmidt ex parte to assess the provo-
cation defense. Schmidt’s counsel agreed that if the court in-
tended to question Schmidt, it should do so in chambers out-
side of the prosecutor’s presence. The court then proposed to
the prosecutor that Schmidt’s counsel would attend the hear-
ing in chambers, but would “just be present” and “not saying
anything.” The prosecutor agreed. Schmidt’s counsel did not
object, but nobody asked Schmidt if he was willing to go for-
ward in this hearing, so critical to his fate, without the assis-
tance of his lawyer.
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    The trial judge, court reporter, Schmidt, and Schmidt’s
counsel proceeded to the judge’s chambers. The judge stated
that Schmidt “appears in person” and that “his attorney is
also present but is not participating in the hearing.” The court
then asked Schmidt an open-ended question about what was
on his mind when he shot Kelly. Schmidt gave the first of what
would be several rambling narrative responses:
           The day I went over was April 17th. I hadn’t
       slept in at least a week, week-and-a-half. And
       I—it was like two days before that, I believe the
       14th of April, the 14th or 15th of April I think it
       was, that I found an e-mail on my work com-
       puter from a—of a reservation for my wife and
       a guy that she supposedly was a friend with that
       worked for Gold Cross Ambulance. And I
       found that when I was at the fire station. I knew
       of him, up until that point, that they were
       friends.
           Um, I had been out of the house for a couple
       of weeks. And I walked there. I went to the fire
       station, and I walked up to the house, because I
       knew there were some issues with, um, Kelly
       had threatened to take—these aren’t my f’ing
       kids, that if she saw me at the house that she
       didn’t want—I wasn’t going to be part of the
       kids’ lives anymore, our two youngest children.
       I just had a feeling that she’d probably call the
       cops if I pulled in the driveway. So I parked at
       the station, Fire Station 6, over on Lightning,
       and I walked to the house.
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          Actually, my main goal was, um, I had a job
      to do. I was going to build a house for a retired
      battalion chief up in Door County. And all my
      tools, my job trailer, and everything was at our
      house on JJ on Edgewood. I was at the time stay-
      ing out at the lake—the lake house that I had—
      had owned prior to us being married in Stock-
      bridge. And there’s—I didn’t have any heat,
      slept on the couch, there was no blankets. I
      mean, it was—there were no dishes. I had—eve-
      rything was—the house was empty. Gas was ac-
      tually shut off because we—instead of paying
      the bills there, I wanted to make sure the bills
      were paid where the kids and Kelly were at … .
That first answer continued for fourteen transcript pages.
Thus began what the Wisconsin Court of Appeals called a
“rambling narrative” that spans thirty-five transcript pages.

. The trial court asked Schmidt the
same open-ended question about his mental state six times.
Each time Schmidt’s response was unfocused and confused
with irrelevant details.
    Near the end of the questioning, the judge took a short
break for a telephone call. Schmidt’s lawyer asked if he could
talk to Schmidt. The judge responded that they should limit
discussion to reviewing the written offer of proof. After the
break, the judge asked Schmidt a few more questions before
ending the hearing. Later that day, the court orally announced
that “the circumstances that led to the death of Kelly Wing did
not involve a provocation” and denied Schmidt’s motion to
present the defense at trial, rejecting it conclusively.
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    B. Post-conviction Processes
    A jury convicted Schmidt of first-degree intentional hom-
icide. 2 Schmidt moved for a new trial, arguing that he had
been denied his Sixth Amendment right to counsel and his
Sixth and Fourteenth Amendment right to present a defense.
The trial court denied the motion, concluding that Schmidt
had not met his burden of production to present the adequate
provocation defense. The trial court also concluded that
Schmidt was not denied counsel at the ex parte hearing be-
cause his counsel submitted the written offer of proof, made
an oral argument, and conferred with Schmidt during the re-
cess for the judge’s telephone call.
    Schmidt appealed, and the Wisconsin Court of Appeals af-
firmed. The Court of Appeals found that Schmidt had not met
the some-evidence standard, though the court called it “a
close question.” The court found that the ex parte interrogation
was a valid exercise of the trial judge’s discretion under state
law. Turning to the Sixth Amendment question, the Court of
Appeals found that the ex parte hearing was not a critical stage
of the proceedings at which Schmidt was entitled to counsel.
The court also reasoned that the hearing was not adversarial
and that counsel was available to advise Schmidt. The court
did not reach Schmidt’s claim that the hearing violated his
right to present a defense. The Wisconsin Supreme Court de-
nied review.
    Schmidt then sought habeas corpus relief in federal court,
raising the Sixth and Fourteenth Amendment claims. The dis-
trict court denied relief on both. The district court considered

    2 The jury also convicted Schmidt of recklessly endangering safety and

bail-jumping. He does not challenge those convictions.
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de novo Schmidt’s claim that he was denied the right to present
a defense and concluded that the Wisconsin evidence law did
not deprive him of that right because it protected a legitimate
interest and was not arbitrary or disproportionate. The court
next found that the deferential standard of review under the
Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act (AEDPA) gov-
erned the Sixth Amendment claim. See 28 U.S.C. § 2254(d).
The district court concluded that the Wisconsin Court of Ap-
peals decision was not contrary to or an unreasonable appli-
cation of Supreme Court precedent guaranteeing criminal de-
fendants counsel at all critical stages. The district court there-
fore denied habeas relief but granted a certificate of appeala-
bility on both issues.
II. Analysis
    The Wisconsin Court of Appeals rejected Schmidt’s Sixth
Amendment claim on the merits, and the facts are not dis-
puted. Under AEDPA, a federal court therefore cannot grant
a writ of habeas corpus on that claim unless the state court
decision “was contrary to, or involved an unreasonable appli-
cation of, clearly established Federal law, as determined
by the Supreme Court of the United States.” 28 U.S.C.
§ 2254(d)(1). A state court’s decision is unreasonable if it cor-
rectly identifies the controlling Supreme Court precedent but
“unreasonably extends” that “legal principle” to “a new con-
text where it should not apply or unreasonably refuses to ex-
tend that principle to a new context where it should apply.”
Williams v. Taylor, 

, 407 (2000). To obtain federal
relief, Schmidt must show that the state court decision was
not just incorrect but “objectively unreasonable.” 

10; accord, e.g., Woodford v. Visciotti, 

, 24–25 (2002)
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(per curiam). This standard is meant to be “difficult to meet.”
Harrington v. Richter, 

, 102 (2011).
    Even under this deferential standard, Schmidt is entitled
to a writ of habeas corpus. The state-court decision was an ob-
jectively unreasonable application of Supreme Court deci-
sions on the right to counsel. The ex parte hearing was a critical
stage of the proceeding. Schmidt was guaranteed “the guid-
ing hand of counsel” throughout it, see 

,
but he did not have that guidance because of the judge’s
ground rules for his inquisition of Schmidt, barring his coun-
sel from participating. Because we grant Schmidt’s petition
based on the violation of his right to counsel, we do not reach
his claim that the trial court also denied his right to present a
defense.
     A. “Critical Stage”
    The Sixth Amendment guarantees that in “all criminal
prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right” to “have the
Assistance of Counsel for his defence.” The Supreme Court
has long recognized that the right applies not only at trial but
also at all “critical stages” of the adversary process. The first
question in this case is the scope of the Supreme Court’s prec-
edents on what constitutes a “critical stage.”
    A brief look at the history of the Sixth Amendment pro-
vides helpful context for understanding the scope of a defend-
ant’s right to counsel in pretrial proceedings. In United States
v. Wade, 

(1967), the Supreme Court explained:
            The Framers of the Bill of Rights envisaged a
        broader role for counsel than under the practice
        then prevailing in England of merely advising
        his client in ‘matters of law,’ and eschewing any
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      responsibility for ‘matters of fact.’ The constitu-
      tions in at least 11 of the 13 States expressly or
      impliedly abolished this distinction. Powell v.
      State of Alabama, 

, 60–65; Note, 73 Yale
      L.J. 1000, 1030–1033 (1964). ‘Though the colonial
      provisions about counsel were in accord on few
      things, they agreed on the necessity of abolish-
      ing the facts-law distinction; the colonists ap-
      preciated that if a defendant were forced to
      stand alone against the state, his case was fore-
      doomed.’ 73 Yale 

–1034. This
      background is reflected in the scope given by
      our decisions to the Sixth Amendment’s guaran-
      tee to an accused of the assistance of counsel for
      his defense. When the Bill of Rights was
      adopted, there were no organized police forces
      as we know them today. The accused con-
      fronted the prosecutor and the witnesses
      against him, and the evidence was marshalled,
      largely at the trial itself. In contrast, today’s law
      enforcement machinery involves critical con-
      frontations of the accused by the prosecution at
      pretrial proceedings where the results might
      well settle the accused's fate and reduce the trial
      itself to a mere formality. In recognition of these
      realities of modern criminal prosecution, our
      cases have construed the Sixth Amendment
      guarantee to apply to ‘critical’ stages of the pro-
      ceedings. The guarantee reads: ‘In all criminal
      prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right
      * * * to have the Assistance of Counsel for his de-
      fence.’ (Emphasis supplied.) The plain wording of
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       this guarantee thus encompasses counsel's assis-
       tance whenever necessary to assure a meaningful
       

–25 (footnotes omitted, emphasis added).
   The Court has identified two historical reasons for the
right to counsel. First was the development of an “intricate
procedural system.” United States v. Ash, 

, 307
(1973). As the Court explained:
       A concern of more lasting importance was the
       recognition and awareness that an unaided lay-
       man had little skill in arguing the law or in cop-
       ing with an intricate procedural system. The
       function of counsel as a guide through complex
       legal technicalities long has been recognized by
       this Court. […] The Court frequently has inter-
       preted the Sixth Amendment to assure that the
       ‘guiding hand of counsel’ is available to those in
       need of its assistance.

Second was the development of the public pros-
ecutor: “Another factor contributing to the colonial recogni-
tion of the accused’s right to counsel was the adoption of the
institution of the public prosecutor from the Continental in-
quisitorial system.” 

“Thus, an additional motivation
for the American rule” that a criminal defendant is entitled to
counsel “was a desire to minimize imbalance in the adversary
system that otherwise resulted with the creation of a profes-
sional prosecuting official.” 

An uncounseled de-
fendant could not be expected to argue his case, navigate the
rules of evidence, or articulate his defenses with the same skill
as an “expert adversary,” the prosecutor. 

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     Over time, the same became true of various pretrial steps
in prosecutions. With increasing frequency, defendants con-
fronted issues before trial that previously would have sur-
faced at trial—issues like articulating defenses or disputing
the admissibility of evidence. With the history of the Sixth
Amendment in mind, the Court has repeatedly applied the
right to counsel to these critical confrontations “that might ap-
propriately be considered to be parts of the trial itself,” that
is, steps when “the accused was confronted, just as at trial, by
the procedural system, or by his expert adversary, or by both.”

The Court has called these confrontations “critical
stages.” See, e.g., 

; Hamilton v. Alabama,

, 53–54 (1961).
    It is clearly established that criminal defendants are enti-
tled to counsel at all critical stages of the criminal process, and
the case law on which stages are critical is extensive. The State
relies here on Carey v. Musladin, 

(2006), which ex-
plained that “clearly established Federal law” under
§ 2254(d)(1) includes only the Supreme Court’s holdings, not
its dicta. 

In Carey, the Court rejected a Ninth Circuit
decision for reading Supreme Court precedent at too high a
level of generality. 

Wisconsin uses Carey to argue
that no clearly established federal law applies to this case be-
cause the Supreme Court has not held that a hearing like the
extraordinary ex parte, in camera hearing here is a critical stage.
   AEDPA deference does not go so far. A few months after
deciding Carey, the Court clarified that AEDPA does not re-
quire “federal courts to wait for some nearly identical factual
pattern” before granting relief. Panetti v. Quarterman, 

, 953 (2007), quoting 

(Kennedy, J., con-
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curring in judgment); see also 

(hold-
ing that state courts can unreasonably apply clearly estab-
lished federal law to facts the Supreme Court has not consid-
ered). “Nor does AEDPA prohibit a federal court from finding
an application of a principle unreasonable when it involves a
set of facts ‘different from those of the case in which the prin-
ciple was announced.’” 

, quoting Lock-
yer v. Andrade, 

, 76 (2003).
    What matters here is what the Supreme Court has done
and what it has said in deciding its many “critical stage”
cases, which we address next. Also, it is not surprising that
the Supreme Court has not considered an ex parte, in camera
hearing on a substantive issue quite like this one. “The very
premise of our adversary system of criminal justice is that par-
tisan advocacy on both sides of a case will best promote the
ultimate objective that the guilty be convicted and the inno-
cent go free.” United States v. Cronic, 

, 655 (1984),
quoting Herring v. New York, 

, 862 (1975). In this
case the trial court improvised an unprecedented procedure
that both abandoned that “very premise of our adversary sys-
tem of criminal justice” to question the defendant directly and
prohibited defense counsel from participating. While trial
judges have discretion to question witnesses directly, this in-
quisitorial procedure in which defense counsel is silenced is
not compatible with the American judicial system. See Wil-
liams v. Wahner, 

, 732–33 (7th Cir. 2013) (declaring
unlawful a federal judge’s practice of questioning prisoner-
plaintiff in ex parte hearing to decide material factual disputes
against the plaintiff, and comparing procedure to inquisitorial
procedures from European legal systems). As the Herring
Court explained further: “the right to the assistance of counsel
has been understood to mean that there can be no restrictions
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upon the function of counsel in defending a criminal prosecu-
tion in accord with the traditions of the adversary factfinding
process that has been constitutionalized in the Sixth and Four-
teenth 

, quoted in 

n.15.3
        1. Confrontation
    Turning first to what the Court has actually done, as the
State conceded at oral argument, the Court has treated as a
“critical stage” every stage of the criminal process between
arraignment and appeal that addresses a substantive issue or
risks loss of procedural rights. As examples, the Court has rec-
ognized the following as critical stages: a preliminary hearing
at which defendant could cross-examine witnesses and other-
wise test the evidence against him; arraignments at which de-
fenses must be asserted; entry of a plea; pretrial identification


    3  By “inquisitorial,” we “don’t mean it was modeled on the proce-
dures employed by the Inquisition.” Henderson v. Wilcoxen, 

,
931 (7th Cir. 2015). We refer to the “system of proof-taking used in civil
law, whereby the judge conducts the trial, determines what questions to
ask, and defines the scope and the extent of the inquiry.” Inquisitorial Sys-
tem, Black’s Law Dictionary (10th ed. 2014). As the Supreme Court has ex-
plained: “What makes a system adversarial rather than inquisitorial is not
the presence of counsel … but rather the presence of a judge who does not
(as an inquisitor does) conduct the factual and legal investigation himself,
but instead decides on the basis of facts and arguments pro and con ad-
duced by the parties.” McNeil v. Wisconsin, 

, 181 n.2 (1991).
Although many countries continue to use inquisitorial systems of fact-
finding, our Constitution establishes an adversarial system. Cf. 

(“In modern usage an inquisitorial hearing is a hearing in
open court in which the judge examines the parties to the suit rather than
leaving examination to the lawyers, as in our legal system, which is adver-
sarial rather than inquisitorial.”).
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through an in-person line-up; pretrial interrogation by a gov-
ernment informant; sentencing hearings; and deferred sen-
tencing hearings that revoke probation. See Coleman v. Ala-
bama, 

, 9 (1970) (plurality); 

(Black, J., concur-
ring) (preliminary hearing where defendant could test evi-
dence to avoid indictment and build record for trial); Hamil-

(arraignment where defenses can be “irre-
trievably lost, if not then and there asserted”); White v. Mary-
land, 

, 60 (1963) (entry of plea); Moore v. Michigan,

, 156, 159 (1957) (entry of plea); 

–37 (pretrial in-person identification); Massiah v. United
States, 

, 206 (1964) (pretrial interrogation); Town-
send v. Burke, 

, 740–41 (1948) (sentencing); Mempa
v. Rhay, 

, 137 (1967) (deferred sentencing and rev-
ocation of probation).
   The sheer number and range of these cases show that the
right to counsel at “critical stages” is not narrow and fact-
bound. The Court has explained its decisions by focusing on
the consequences of the particular stage, and in particular on
consequences for the defendant’s ability to receive a fair trial.
In Wade, the Court summarized:
           In sum, the principle of Powell v. Alabama
       and succeeding cases requires that we scrutinize
       any pretrial confrontation of the accused to de-
       termine whether the presence of his counsel is
       necessary to preserve the defendant’s basic right
       to a fair trial as affected by his right meaning-
       fully to cross-examine the witnesses against him
       and to have effective assistance of counsel at the
       trial itself. It calls upon us to analyze whether
       potential substantial prejudice to defendant’s
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       rights inheres in the particular confrontation
       and the ability of counsel to help avoid that prej-
       udice.

. In Mempa v. Rhay, the Court summa-
rized its precedents as “clearly stand[ing] for the proposition
that” counsel is “required at every stage of a criminal pro-
ceeding where substantial rights of a criminal accused may be

. In Coleman v. Alabama, the Court
quoted the above passage from Wade and referred to it as a
“test” that the Court had consistently applied throughout its
critical-stage 

. And in Ash, the Court
stated that its “review of the history and expansion of the
Sixth Amendment counsel guarantee” demonstrated “that
the test utilized by the Court has called for examination of the
event in order to determine whether the accused required aid
in coping with legal problems or assistance in meeting his ad-

.
    It is true that many of the Court’s “critical-stage” cases ad-
dress direct confrontations between the defendant and the
professional prosecutor, and that the prosecutor was not in
the room for the hearing at issue in this case. See, e.g., Cole-

(preliminary hearing where defendant
could test prosecutor’s evidence before trial); 

(deferred sentencing hearing where prosecutor argued
for revocation of probation). That is typically how proceed-
ings are held when the rules of adversarial proceedings are
followed, but the Supreme Court’s clearly established prece-
dent is not limited to adversarial confrontations where the
prosecution and/or police are literally in the room with the
accused. We cannot imagine that the Supreme Court would
tolerate a procedure in which the trial judge, without a valid
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waiver of the right to counsel, took the defendant alone into
chambers for questioning on the record on any substantive is-
sue. The result is no different here, where the lawyer was
physically present but prohibited from speaking or otherwise
participating.
    First, in Estelle v. Smith, 

(1981), the Court held
that a trial judge had violated the accused’s right to counsel in
a non-adversarial setting where the prosecutor was absent.
The judge “informally ordered” a psychiatrist to examine the
accused to determine competency to stand trial. 

457 n.1. The defendant was found competent to stand trial
and then found guilty at trial. At the penalty phase of the trial,
the judge then allowed the state to offer the contents of the
interview and the psychiatrist’s opinion to prove future dan-
gerousness. The defense lawyer had not been notified in ad-
vance that the psychiatric examination would take place, let
alone that it would include the issue of future dangerousness.

471 n.15. The accused did not have his assistance
in deciding whether to submit to the examination. 

The Supreme Court held (unanimously) that the judge’s non-
adversarial decision to order the psychiatric interview—with
only the accused and the psychiatrist present—was a critical
stage of the proceedings and that the accused had a right to a
lawyer in deciding whether to submit to it. 

4 Crit-
ically, the Court held that the defendant was entitled to coun-
sel’s advice before the interview itself, because it “follows log-
ically” from the Court’s “precedents that a defendant should
not be forced to resolve such an important issue ‘without the

     4
     The Court did not hold that the accused had a right to have his law-
yer present for the examination itself, but he had a right to the advice of
counsel in deciding whether to submit to 

n.14.
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guiding hand of counsel.’” 

quoting 

. Resolving that issue—whether to submit to the evalua-
tion—did not involve an in-person confrontation with the
prosecutor, the police, or any other agent of the state.
    Similarly, in Geders v. United States, the Court found that
the defendant’s right to counsel had been violated when, dur-
ing trial, the judge ordered the defendant not to consult with
his attorney during an overnight recess. 

, 81 (1970).
The trial itself, of course, is a stage in the criminal process
where the defendant has a right to counsel (and the Court
therefore did not need to engage in a critical-stage analysis).
But the overnight recess was not a formal part of the trial pro-
ceedings and did not occur in the courtroom or in the prose-
cutor’s presence. Yet the defendant did not lose his right to
counsel when he left the courtroom and the traditionally ad-
versarial setting. He required his counsel’s guidance over-
night to make tactical decisions in light of the proceedings
against him. 

91. Importantly, the Court did not
analyze the overnight recess as a separate stage that may or
may not be critical by itself. Underlying both Smith and Geders
is the recognition that the accused needs and is entitled to the
assistance of counsel in making choices throughout the pros-
ecution, regardless of whether the precise moment in ques-
tion is “adversarial” in the sense that the professional prose-
cution or police are literally in the room at the time.
    More generally, the Court has repeatedly applied the “crit-
ical stage” analysis by focusing on the consequences the ac-
cused faces in the particular stage of the case, not necessarily
on whether the prosecution or police are in the room. That is
clear from the critical “or” in Ash: “This review of the history
and expansion of the Sixth Amendment counsel guarantee
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demonstrates that the test utilized by the Court has called for
examination of the event in order to determine whether the
accused required aid in coping with legal problems or assis-
tance in meeting his ad

(emphasis
added).
    Confirming the importance of that “or” in Ash, the Court
has recognized as critical stages several proceedings that re-
quire defendants to make procedural decisions. In those
cases, it was the defendant’s inability to cope with the proce-
dural system—not any face-to-face confrontation with the
prosecutor—that drove the Court’s holdings. See, e.g., Hamil-
ton, 

(finding Alabama arraignment a critical stage
because the defendant had to assert or forfeit defenses, with-
out any mention of prosecutor or contested issues); White, 

(finding Maryland preliminary hearing a critical stage
because defendant had to enter a plea, without any mention
of prosecutor or contested issues); Smith, 

(finding
decision to submit to psychiatric evaluation on competence to
stand trial a critical stage, without any mention of prosecutor
or contested issues).
    And this makes sense. When a defendant confronts a
purely procedural question—even outside of the courtroom
and outside of the prosecutor’s presence—he does so in re-
sponse to the adversary proceedings that the prosecution has
brought against him. One motivation for the right to counsel
“was a desire to minimize the imbalance in the adversary sys-
tem,” which recognizes that a layperson does not have the
same skill or knowledge necessary to navigate the law. 

(emphasis added). After all, requiring an un-
counseled defendant to make a consequential procedural de-
cision can easily undermine the desired balance between the
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prosecutor and the accused, prejudice the defense, and reduce
“the trial itself to a mere formality.” 

(ex-
plaining that goal of right to counsel at critical stages is to pre-
serve the integrity of the trial).
   By looking both at what the Supreme Court has done and
at what it has said, it is clear that an evidentiary hearing on a
contested substantive issue is a critical stage of the proceed-
ings. There is no reason to think the result is different when
the judge moves half of the hearing into chambers and elicits,
through the judge’s own questioning, the defendant’s rebuttal
to the prosecutor’s opposition. Against the weight of the
many cases finding pretrial stages were critical as long as the
accused might face serious consequences affecting the fair-
ness of the trial, the State has not identified any Supreme
Court case even suggesting, let alone holding, that a hearing
comparable to the one in this case was not a critical stage.
    The Court has found stages not critical only when they are
non-adversarial and there is no risk that an accused might
make mistakes that a lawyer cannot cure before or at trial. In
Ash itself, for example, the Court distinguished between an
eyewitness identification by in-person lineup, which Wade
held is a critical stage, and a witness’s identification by look-
ing at a photographic array, which is 

. At a
line-up, the defendant is present and confronts either law en-
forcement or the prosecutor. Without counsel’s observation
and guidance, “there is a grave potential for prejudice” be-
cause the uncounseled defendant is unable to identify a sug-
gestive procedure and unlikely to be able to reconstruct a bi-
ased procedure at trial. 

–32, 236. A pho-
tographic array, by comparison, is only non-adversarial gath-
ering of evidence outside of the defendant’s presence. There
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is “no possibility” that “the accused might be misled by his
lack of familiarity with the law or overpowered by his profes-
sional adversary.” 

. The Court reached a
similar conclusion in Gerstein v. Pugh when it found that the
probable cause determination, by itself, is not a critical stage.

, 120, 122 (1975). Probable cause is typically de-
cided “by a magistrate in a nonadversary proceeding on hear-
say and written testimony.” 

It does not require the
defendant’s participation and its outcome cannot “impair de-
fense on the merits.” 

    The Supreme Court has clearly established that the right
to counsel extends to a pretrial evidentiary hearing on a con-
tested, substantive issue, where an uncounseled defendant
risks decisive consequences for his prospects at trial. E.g.,
Cole

(plurality); 

(Black, J., concur-
ring); 

, 236–37. In this case, the Wisconsin
Court of Appeals correctly recognized the general rule that
the Sixth Amendment guarantees counsel at all critical stages.
But the court strayed in finding that the ex parte hearing was
not a critical stage in Schmidt’s case.
    The state court’s observation that the ex parte, in camera
proceeding was not adversarial, in the sense that the prosecu-
tor was not in the room, thus missed the point. It unreason-
ably applied Supreme Court precedent and, frankly, ignored
reality in favor of a formalism that the Court has not adopted.
The ex parte, in camera hearing was not a distinct stage in
Schmidt’s case. It was part of the evidentiary hearing the court
held to address a substantive issue—the mitigating defense of
adequate provocation. That defense was certainly contested.
That is precisely why the judge held the hearing: to determine
whether the prosecution or defense had the better arguments
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on the adequate provocation defense. The prosecution op-
posed admission of the evidence related to the defense, while
Schmidt argued that he had met the threshold showing for
admissibility. Schmidt presented part of his side of the case in
the judge’s chambers, but that fact makes no difference given
what the Supreme Court has held to be critical stages. There
is no question that the overall hearing was an adversary pro-
ceeding. Nothing in the Supreme Court’s extensive critical-
stage jurisprudence suggests that the hearing became any less
critical, or any less of a “trial-like confrontation,” when the
judge took the accused and his (silenced) lawyer into cham-
bers to question him about the facts supporting the defense.
    In addition to confronting the prosecutor’s substantive ar-
guments on the disputed provocation defense, Schmidt
needed to navigate the “complex legal technicalities” of the
“intricate procedural system.” 

. He needed
to meet the burden of production that Wisconsin requires for
affirmative defenses like adequate provocation: the “some ev-
idence” threshold. If he met that burden at trial, the prosecu-
tor would bear the burden of persuasion and would have to
disprove the defense beyond a reasonable doubt. To show be-
fore trial that he had “some evidence” of adequate provoca-
tion, Schmidt needed to reveal only his best evidence. These
are not procedural concepts that a layperson—especially one
whose own fate is at stake—is likely to understand, let alone
execute. The transcript in this case shows as much. Schmidt’s
lack of understanding about the burden of production caused
him to disclose too much at this stage. In effect, Schmidt did
the prosecutor’s job for her and converted the ex parte, in cam-
era hearing into a mini-trial on the merits of his defense.
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    In sum, in this hearing conducted without his counsel’s
participation, Schmidt not only confronted a complex sub-
stantive and procedural question; he was also forced to de-
fend his position on the meaning of the procedural rule after
the prosecutor challenged him. This was a critical stage—in
this case, actually the most critical stage—of this prosecution.
The accused’s right to counsel in this inquisitorial hearing did
not depend on whether the prosecutor was in the room, or on
whether the judge’s tone of voice and phrasing of questions
were gentle or hostile. What mattered, under clearly estab-
lished Supreme Court precedent, is that Schmidt was con-
fronting the complex machinery of the criminal justice pro-
cess on the most critical, disputed, and substantive issue in
the case.
       2. Potential for Prejudice
    For a pretrial confrontation to be a critical stage, it must
also have the potential to prejudice the defendant and there-
fore undermine the integrity of the trial. 

.
The ex parte, in camera hearing had the potential to prejudice
Schmidt substantially. The state court’s conclusion to the con-
trary was unreasonable. “Fatal to Schmidt’s argument,” the
Wisconsin court reasoned, the hearing was “supplemental”
and “Schmidt had already submitted written offers of proof”
in support of his defense. The logic of that rationalization for
denying Schmidt assistance of counsel flies in the face of
clearly established Supreme Court precedent.
    The Sixth Amendment analysis focuses on whether there
is a potential for prejudice given what or whom the uncoun-
seled defendant must confront and what counsel could do
later to fix the defendant’s mistakes. E.g., 

,
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317; 

(plurality); 

(Black, J., con-
curring); 

. In this case, Schmidt was asked
to meet the burden of production to preserve his most prom-
ising—indeed, his only—defense in mitigation at trial. In this
case, no stage was more critical. What happened in chambers
settled Schmidt’s fate. It reduced “the trial itself to a mere for-
mality.” See 

.
    The criminal process is full of pretrial steps that involve
both written and oral submissions to the court: to name a few,
motions to suppress evidence; motions challenging venue, ju-
risdiction, or competency to stand trial; and motions asserting
selective or vindictive prosecution, or denial of speedy trial
rights, or discovery disputes. Counsel’s help with the written
half of the process does not erase the potential for prejudice
in the oral half, let alone justify denying assistance of counsel.
To our knowledge, the Supreme Court has never held that
having assistance of counsel in part of a critical stage of the
prosecution justifies denial of counsel in the rest of it. In this
case the judge questioned Schmidt after reviewing the written
offers of proof. If the judge had thought the written offers of
proof had met the some-evidence threshold, the ex parte, in
camera questioning would have been unnecessary. What
Schmidt would say in chambers was critical.
    Even if Schmidt had met the some-evidence threshold in
his written offers of proof alone, his unfocused “rambling nar-
rative” in chambers could have diluted that evidence with de-
tails harmful to his defense. At that point in the pretrial pro-
cess, Schmidt did not need to prove adequate provocation. He
needed to provide “some evidence” of it. 

, citing 

.
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    The risk was not only that the judge might lose sight of the
elements of adequate provocation or might fail to separate the
wheat from the extensive chaff in Schmidt’s rambling an-
swers, though those are certainly good reasons for needing
counsel in the hearing. There was also a risk that Schmidt
would convert the hearing into a mini-trial on the merits of
his defense rather than a debate about the burden of produc-
tion. If Schmidt could have just met the burden of produc-
tion—and only that burden—he would have had the right to
present his evidence and argue his defense to the jury. And
the trial judge’s oral ruling suggests that this risk might have
played out here: “The Court finds that the circumstances that
led to the death of Kelly Wing did not involve a provocation
and it was not an adequate provocation and denies the mo-
tion.” That conclusion sounds more like a decision on the
merits than a decision on the burden of production.
   Finally, Schmidt’s counsel could not fix later the harm
done by Schmidt’s answers. The trial court silenced counsel in
the ex parte hearing and ruled on the defense shortly after
questioning Schmidt. Because counsel could not later undo
the harm to Schmidt, the risk of prejudice at the evidentiary
hearing infected his trial.
       3. Role of Counsel
    The last factor in the critical-stage analysis is whether
counsel could have helped Schmidt avoid prejudice at the
hearing. There can be no doubt that Schmidt would have ben-
efited from his attorney’s help at the hearing. It is a basic tenet
of constitutional law that an accused has a right to counsel
when he is in custody or after formal proceedings have begun
against him because of the risk that he will inadvertently
harm his defense. See Miranda v. Arizona, 

, 466
No. 17-1727                                                  27

(1966) (Sixth Amendment guarantees right to counsel at po-
lice interrogation to protect defendant against self-incrimina-
tion); 

(same in interrogation by gov-
ernment informant). The dangers to Schmidt and the oppor-
tunity for his counsel to help him are both evident here.
    In Ferguson v. Georgia, 

, 594–96 (1961), the Su-
preme Court explained the need for counsel in a context very
close to this case. At that time, Georgia prohibited the accused
from testifying in his own defense. State law allowed the ac-
cused to make an unsworn statement to the jury, but he ordi-
narily had to do so without questioning by his counsel to
guide him. The Court held that the defendant had a right to
have his counsel question him to elicit his statement. In ex-
plaining this conclusion, the Court quoted Chief Justice Coo-
ley, the nineteenth-century jurist from Michigan, in a lengthy
passage that fits Schmidt’s case well:
           But to hold that the moment the defendant
       is placed upon the stand he shall be debarred of
       all assistance from his counsel, and left to go
       through his statement as his fears or his embar-
       rassment may enable him, in the face of the con-
       sequences which may follow from imperfect or
       unsatisfactory explanation, would in our opin-
       ion be to make, what the statute designed as an
       important privilege to the accused, a trap into
       which none but the most cool and self-pos-
       sessed could place himself with much prospect
       of coming out unharmed. An innocent man,
       charged with a heinous offence, and against
       whom evidence of guilt has been given, is much
       more likely to be overwhelmed by his situation,
28                                                        No. 17-1727

        and embarrassed, when called upon for expla-
        nation, than the offender, who is hardened in
        guilt; and if he is unlearned, unaccustomed to speak
        in public assemblies, or to put together his thoughts
        in consecutive order any where, it will not be sur-
        prising if his explanation is incoherent, or if it over-
        looks important 

–96 (emphasis added), quoting Annis v. People,

, 519–20 (1865) (reversing conviction where trial
judge had not allowed defense counsel to remind defendant
he had omitted a material fact from his statement).
    Schmidt was not innocent, but the subject of the ex parte,
in camera hearing was his only theory of mitigation. And what
Ferguson described with the quotation from Annis is just what
happened here. Without the guidance of counsel’s question-
ing, Schmidt provided an incoherent account of the circum-
stances that might have supported his defense in mitigation.
(Recall that the Wisconsin Court of Appeals said it was “a
close question” whether Schmidt had produced “some evi-
dence” sufficient to present a triable defense of adequate
provocation.) Counsel could have helped him organize the
facts, present a coherent and legally relevant response, and
meet the burden of production. Without counsel acting in that
role, “a serious risk of injustice infects the trial itself.” 

, quoting Cuyler v. Sullivan, 

, 343
(1980).
     B. Assistance of Counsel at the Hearing
   Because the hearing was a critical stage in Schmidt’s case,
the next question is whether Schmidt received the assistance
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of counsel during it. The Wisconsin Court of Appeals rea-
soned that Schmidt’s counsel was present for the ex parte hear-
ing and could have advised Schmidt and answered any ques-
tions he had. Under AEDPA, we presume that this was a find-
ing on the merits. Johnson v. Williams, 

, 293 (2013).
Even assuming AEDPA controls, it is unreasonable to con-
clude that counsel’s silent (and silenced) presence satisfied the
Sixth Amendment. See 28 U.S.C. § 2254(d)(1).
    The Sixth Amendment guarantees the effective assistance
of counsel, of course. Strickland v. Washington, 

, 686
(1984); 

; McMann v. Richardson, 

, 771 (1970). The Sixth Amendment is not satisfied when
“no actual Assistance for the accused’s defence is provided”
and, as a result, the prosecution’s case is not tested against
“the crucible of meaningful adversarial testing.” 

, 656 (internal quotations omitted). Attorneys can
be constitutionally ineffective either because of their own er-
rors or because the government interferes with their perfor-
mance. 

, 692; Cronic, 

–60
(categorizing circumstances when government interference
with attorney performance violates Sixth Amendment). The
Supreme Court has held that the government violates the
Sixth Amendment when it interferes to such an extent that
“although counsel is available to assist the accused,” the “like-
lihood that any lawyer, even a fully competent one, could pro-
vide effective assistance is so small that a presumption of pre-
judice is appropriate without inquiry into the actual con-
duct.” 

–60.
   A long line of Supreme Court cases has applied the rule
that mere appointment or presence of counsel is insufficient
30                                                 No. 17-1727

if state action converts counsel’s presence into a sham. In Pow-
ell v. Alabama, the Court held that “defendants were not ac-
corded the right of counsel in any substantial sense” when the
court appointed defense lawyers for the Scottsboro Boys but
did not give the lawyers adequate time to prepare for 

–58; see also Avery v. Alabama, 

, 446
(1940) (“[T]he denial of opportunity for appointed counsel to
… prepare his defense, could convert the appointment of
counsel into a sham and nothing more than a formal compli-
ance with the Constitution’s requirement.”). In Ferguson, as
noted, the Court found unconstitutional a rule that prohibited
defense counsel—though present at trial—from directly ex-
amining a defendant who chose to speak in his own 

. In Geders, the Court found that “an order pre-
venting petitioner from consulting his counsel ‘about any-
thing’” overnight during trial “impinged upon his right to the
assistance of 

. And in Holloway v. Ar-
kansas, the Court found that the “mere physical presence of an
attorney does not fulfill the Sixth Amendment guarantee”
when the state refused to appoint counsel free of conflicts of
interest and “the advocate’s conflicting obligations … effec-
tively sealed his lips on crucial matters.” 

, 490
(1978). Thus, the Court has “uniformly found constitutional
error” when counsel was “either totally absent, or prevented
from assisting the accused during a critical stage.” 

n.25 (emphasis added).
   Even comparatively modest government interference with
the attorney’s ability to exercise judgment can render counsel
ineffective and violate the Sixth Amendment. See 

, 865 (state violated Sixth Amendment by barring
defense attorney from giving closing summation in bench
No. 17-1727                                                     31

trial); Brooks v. Tennessee, 

, 612–13 (1972) (state vi-
olated Sixth Amendment by requiring that defendant who
chose to testify be the first witness). The Court summarized
its precedent in Strickland:
           That a person who happens to be a lawyer is
       present at trial alongside the accused, however,
       is not enough to satisfy the constitutional com-
       mand. The Sixth Amendment recognizes the
       right to the assistance of counsel because it en-
       visions counsel’s playing a role that is critical to
       the ability of the adversarial system to produce
       just results. An accused is entitled to be assisted
       by an attorney, whether retained or appointed,
       who plays the role necessary to ensure that the
       trial is fair. For that reason, the Court has recog-
       nized that the right to counsel is the right to ef-
       fective assistance of 

–86 (collecting cases; internal quotations omit-
ted).
    In this case, Schmidt’s counsel was, in the trial judge’s own
words, “just … present” and “not saying anything” during
the ex parte hearing. The state thus prevented Schmidt’s coun-
sel from performing the “role that is critical to the ability of
the adversarial system to produce just results.” 

. Schmidt’s counsel was not allowed to speak while
the court questioned his client on the most important issue in
his defense. It was objectively unreasonable for the state court
to conclude that Schmidt’s counsel could have provided effec-
tive assistance and meaningfully tested the arguments against
the provocation defense by “not saying anything.” See 

, citing Anders v. California, 

, 743
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(1967) (summarizing Supreme Court precedent requiring
counsel acting as an advocate).
    In this appeal, the State echoes the state court’s suggestion
that Schmidt’s counsel “could have objected” during the hear-
ing and was “functionally present” to help Schmidt. We find
no factual support for these statements. The trial judge told
Schmidt—and assured the prosecutor—that Schmidt’s coun-
sel would not say anything during the hearing. Once in cham-
bers, the judge reiterated that Schmidt’s counsel was not to
participate. And throughout the ex parte hearing, Schmidt
spoke uninterrupted by his counsel for long enough to fill
thirty-five transcript pages. The judge addressed Schmidt di-
rectly, not his counsel. Given the judge’s ground rules for the
hearing, there is no basis for the conclusion that counsel could
have objected or advised Schmidt. Doing so would have
amounted to contempt of court.
    The State also argues that Schmidt could have cured any
prejudice by supplementing his offers of proof after the ex
parte hearing. The State points to an earlier pretrial hearing
when the court announced that it would hold the hearing on
the provocation defense and might allow Schmidt to supple-
ment the record “if the Court is not satisfied” at “the end of
that” hearing. There are three major flaws in this argument.
First, the accused is entitled to the assistance of counsel dur-
ing the entirety of a critical stage, not just part of it. Second,
and more specifically, Schmidt needed counsel’s help in con-
fronting the burden of production on a complex factual and
legal defense. The prejudice he suffered came from disclosing
irrelevant details and diluting the evidence that could support
his defense. Any hypothetical opportunity to supplement the
record later would not have reversed the damage to Schmidt’s
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case or satisfied Schmidt’s right to counsel during the critical
hearing itself.
   Third, again, the factual record does not support the
State’s argument. The trial court ruled on the provocation de-
fense immediately after the ex parte proceeding. When
Schmidt’s counsel mentioned supplementing the record a
month later, the judge replied that he had already “ruled on”
the defense.
    The State also points out that Schmidt’s counsel did not
object to the judge’s ground rules that required counsel to re-
main silent during the ex parte hearing. (Schmidt’s counsel did
object to holding the hearing at all, and to the judge’s plan to
question Schmidt himself, but on Fifth Amendment grounds.)
The absence of a Sixth Amendment objection does not matter
here. The accused himself may waive the right to counsel,
whether for the entire case or for a particular stage of the pro-
ceeding, but any waiver must be knowing and intelligent.
E.g., Brewer v. Williams, 

, 404 (1977) (state must
prove “intentional relinquishment or abandonment of a
known right or privilege” to show waiver of right to counsel
at critical stage). There is also a strong presumption against
waiver of constitutional rights that preserve a fair trial. Id.;
Schneckloth v. Bustamonte, 

, 237–38 (1973). There is
no indication in this record that Schmidt knew he had a right
to effective assistance of counsel in the highly unusual ex
parte, in camera hearing, let alone that he knew the judge’s
ground rules would deny him that right or that he agreed to
waive the right.
   Finally, the State points to the brief recess late in the hear-
ing when the judge made a telephone call. Counsel asked if
he might speak to his client during the short recess. The judge
34                                                  No. 17-1727

said only that counsel could review the written offer of proof
summarizing Schmidt’s intended defense. This limited oppor-
tunity for a brief talk with counsel was not enough to satisfy
the Sixth Amendment “in any substantial sense,” and to con-
clude otherwise “would simply be to ignore actualities.” Pow-

. As the Supreme Court has observed, the
“tensions of a trial for an accused with life or liberty at stake
might alone render him utterly unfit to give his explanation
properly” when speaking “without the guiding hand of coun-
sel.” 

(internal quotations and cita-
tions omitted). Schmidt was never guided while explaining
his offense and the provocation he claimed. The problems the
Supreme Court predicted in Ferguson occurred here.
Schmidt’s answers to the judge’s questions were so unfocused,
with so much irrelevant and distracting details and side-
tracks, that the judge asked him the same question six times:
what was your mental state when you shot your wife? The
Sixth Amendment guaranteed him more than a silenced at-
torney listening to his answers.
    When the State denies a defendant counsel at a critical
stage, prejudice is presumed. E.g., Bell v. Cone, 

,
695–96 (2002); 

–59. The district court’s
judgment is REVERSED and the case is REMANDED with in-
structions to grant the writ of habeas corpus ordering that
Schmidt be released or retried promptly, or perhaps, as the
State suggested in the district court, that the state court mod-
ify Schmidt’s judgment of conviction to second-degree inten-
tional homicide and re-sentence him accordingly.
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     BARRETT, Circuit Judge, dissenting. I dissent from the ma-
jority opinion for three reasons. First, I disagree that clearly
established Supreme Court precedent dictates the resolution
of Schmidt’s Sixth Amendment claim. The majority says that
this ex parte and in camera proceeding was a “critical stage,”
but the Court’s “critical stage” precedent deals exclusively
with adversarial confrontations between the defendant and
an agent of the State. Second, the majority suggests that even
if the presence of an adversary is necessary, the judge played
that role. The procedural context and transcript, however,
provide ample grounds for a fairminded jurist to conclude
otherwise. Finally, I disagree with the majority that the Wis-
consin Court of Appeals unreasonably applied federal law in
deciding that this proceeding did not risk substantial preju-
dice to Schmidt. The prejudice alleged is that Schmidt’s
wandering testimony cluttered the record with irrelevant de-
tails that distracted the judge from Schmidt’s best evidence.
This proceeding, however, supplemented the defense’s writ-
ten offer of proof detailing Schmidt’s evidence of adequate
provocation. A fairminded jurist could conclude that the
written summary of Schmidt’s evidence kept the judge from
losing the forest for the trees.
                               I.
    Because the Wisconsin Court of Appeals adjudicated
Schmidt’s Sixth Amendment claim on the merits, the Anti-
Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996 (AEDPA)
prevents us from granting his application for a writ of habe-
as corpus unless the state court’s decision was “contrary to,
or involved an unreasonable application of, clearly estab-
lished Federal law, as determined by the Supreme Court of
the United States.” 28 U.S.C. § 2254(d)(1). The majority’s de-
36                                                  No. 17-1727

scription of this case as “unprecedented” and “highly unu-
sual” gives away the fact that the opinion enters territory
that the Supreme Court has not broached. Existing Supreme
Court precedent addresses a defendant’s right to counsel in
certain adversarial confrontations with a prosecutor, the po-
lice, or an agent of either. No Supreme Court precedent ad-
dresses the question presented by this case: whether a de-
fendant has the right to counsel when testifying before a
judge in a nonadversarial proceeding. Because there is no
clearly established Supreme Court precedent for the Wiscon-
sin Court of Appeals to have unreasonably applied, Schmidt
cannot satisfy § 2254(d)(1)’s stringent standard for relief.
                               A.
    The majority describes Supreme Court precedent as
“clearly stand[ing] for the proposition that” counsel is “re-
quired at every stage of a criminal proceeding where sub-
stantial rights of a criminal accused may be affected.” Major-
ity Op. at 17 (citing Mempa v. Rhay, 

, 134 (1967)).
That states the rule at too high a level of generality. The
Court’s “critical stage” precedent deals exclusively with a
defendant’s right to counsel in adversarial confrontations
with law enforcement. And the connection between the right
to counsel and an adversarial confrontation is by no means a
mere sidelight in the cases; it is central to them.
     The Court has rooted the right to counsel in the need to
protect the defendant when he faces the prosecuting authori-
ty. In United States v. Ash, it explained that the right emerged
alongside the introduction of a “government official whose
specific function it was to prosecute, and who was incompa-
rably more familiar than the accused with the problems of
procedure, the idiosyncrasies of juries, and, last but not least,
No. 17-1727                                                             37

the personnel of the court.” 

, 308 (1973) (citing F.
Heller, The Sixth Amendment 20–21 (1951)). Consistent with
this history, the Sixth Amendment was designed “to mini-
mize imbalance in the adversary system that otherwise re-
sulted with the creation of a professional prosecuting offi-
cial.” 

While the Amendment’s protection is not
limited to the formal trial, “[t]he Court consistently has ap-
plied a historical interpretation of the guarantee, and has ex-
panded the constitutional right to counsel only when new
contexts appear presenting the same dangers that gave birth
initially to the right itself.” 

   The “new contexts” to which the Court has extended the
right invariably involve a confrontation between the defend-
ant and his adversary, be it a prosecutor, the police, or one of
their agents. For example, in Estelle v. Smith, a psychiatrist
functioning as an “agent of the State” performed an exami-
nation of the defendant in his jail cell. 

, 467
(1981). 1 In Coleman v. Alabama, the defendant attended a pre-

    1
       The majority characterizes Estelle as a case in which the Court rec-
ognized the right to counsel in a non-adversarial proceeding. Majority
Op. at 18–19. In Estelle, the judge had “informally ordered the State’s at-
torney to arrange a psychiatric examination of [the defendant] … to de-
termine [his] competency to stand trial,”451 U.S. at 456–57, and the ma-
jority asserts that the Court held that “the judge’s non-adversarial deci-
sion to order the psychiatric interview … was a critical stage of the pro-
ceedings.” Majority Op. at 18. But it was the examination by the psychia-
trist, not the decision by the judge, that the Court deemed a “critical

(“[R]espondent’s Sixth Amendment right to coun-
sel clearly had attached when Dr. Grigson examined him at the Dallas
County Jail, and their interview proved to be a ‘critical stage’ of the ag-
gregate proceedings against the respondent.” (footnote omitted)). And
the Court left no doubt that the psychiatrist functioned as the defend-
ant’s adversary. It stressed that the defendant was “faced with a phase of
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liminary hearing at which there was an opportunity to cross-
examine the prosecution’s witnesses, preview the prosecu-
tor’s case to better prepare for trial, and argue for matters
such as “the necessity for an early psychiatric examination or
bail.” 

, 9 (1970) (plurality opinion). In United States
v. Wade, an FBI agent conducted a lineup of Wade and sever-
al other prisoners. 

(1967). In Mempa v. Rhay, the
defendant was summoned to a hearing at which the prose-
cutor sought to have his probation revoked and a sentence
imposed. 

(1967). In Massiah v. United States, fed-
eral agents sent an informant wearing a wire to elicit incrim-
inating testimony from the defendant after he had already
been indicted. 

(1964). In Escobedo v. Illinois, the
police interrogated the defendant without counsel despite
his repeated requests that counsel be present. 

(1964). In White v. Maryland, the prosecutor presented a pri-
ma facie case against the defendant at a preliminary hearing,
where the defendant pleaded guilty. 

(1963) (per
curiam). 2 In Hamilton v. Alabama, the defendant faced the

the adversary system” and was “not in the presence of [a] perso[n] acting
solely in his interest.” 

(citations omitted). The psychiatrist as-
sessed the defendant’s “future dangerousness,” gathering evidence that
the prosecution used in seeking the death penalty, 

471, and he
then testified against the defendant at trial, “recounting unwarned
statements made in a postarrest custodial setting.” 

. Given the
stakes of submitting to such an interview, the Court held that the de-
fendant had the right to counsel’s help in deciding whether to do it. 

     2
      The brief per curiam opinion is short on details, but the petitioner’s
brief explains that at a preliminary hearing in Maryland, “the defendant
may be called upon by the magistrate to plead guilty or not guilty, and a
plea of guilty is admissible evidence at the subsequent trial of his case.
Here, also, the defendant is afforded the first opportunity to be informed
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prosecutor at arraignment, which was his only opportunity
to plead insanity, make pleas in abatement, and move to
quash the indictment based on racial discrimination in the
composition of the grand jury. 

(1961). Although
these confrontations occurred outside the context of the for-
mal trial, the Sixth Amendment applied because they “of-
fered opportunities for prosecuting authorities to take ad-
vantage of the accused,” or the risk that the accused “might
be misled by his lack of familiarity with the law.” 

, 317.3


of the charges against him, cross-examine State’s witnesses, and begin to
effectively prepare his defense … [The magistrate’s] sole function at this
hearing is to determine from the evidence presented by the State’s attor-
ney whether to hold the accused for the action of the Grand Jury … or
discharge him.” Petitioner’s Brief at 4, 6.
    3
      The majority relies on Geders v. United States, 

(1976), as
support for the proposition that a proceeding need not be adversarial for
the right to counsel to apply. See Majority Op. at 19. Geders—which is not
a “critical stage” case—is inapposite. In Geders, the Court held that the
trial court violated the defendant’s Sixth Amendment right when it in-
structed all witnesses, including the defendant, not to discuss the case
with anyone during an overnight recess in the trial. The case did not pre-
sent the question whether a particular event (there, the overnight recess)
is a “critical stage” at which the state must ensure that the defendant is
either accompanied by counsel or waives his right to be accompanied by
counsel. It presented the different question whether a trial court can pre-
vent the defendant from consulting counsel on his own initiative outside
of the trial. 

Geders says nothing about the characteristics of a
“critical stage,” much less suggests that such a stage need not be adver-
sarial. Nor does Geders stand for the proposition that the start of the ad-
versarial process—or even the start of trial—marks the beginning of a
continuous “critical stage.” On the contrary, the Court has indicated that
a trial may encompass stages that are not critical. See, e.g., Woods v. Don-
ald, – U.S. –, 

, 1377–78 (2015) (per curiam) (reversing the
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    Ash includes a line that is susceptible to misinterpreta-
tion. There, the Court said that a stage is critical when “the
accused was confronted, just as at trial, by the procedural
system, or by his expert adversary, or by both.” 

This language could be understood as setting up alternative
settings—one non-adversarial and the other adversarial—in
which the right to counsel applies. In context, however, it is
evident that the Court was explaining why it has extended
the right of counsel not only to situations in which the de-
fendant or his witness is questioned by the police or prose-
cutor (as in post-indictment interrogation of the accused or
examination at trial), but also to situations in which the
prosecutor puts the accused to a procedural choice (like en-
tering a plea or raising a defense). In other words, Ash de-
scribes two kinds of risks that an accused might face in an
adversarial setting. It does not describe the right to counsel
as extending outside of an adversarial proceeding, and the
Court has not understood it that way.
   To the contrary, the Court has never extended the right
outside of the adversarial context. And when it has refused
to extend the right, it has done so on the ground that the
proceeding was not adversarial. Ash refused to extend the
right of counsel to a post-indictment photographic display
precisely because the display involved no confrontation be-
tween the accused and the prosecuting 

, 321. Similarly, in Gerstein v. Pugh, the Court held that a
probable cause hearing is not a critical stage “[b]ecause of its


Sixth Circuit’s grant of habeas relief to a petitioner whose counsel was
absent during trial testimony about the petitioner’s co-defendants be-
cause the Court had never held that the presentation of testimony tan-
gentially related to the defendant was a “critical stage”).
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limited function and its nonadversary character.” 

, 122 (1975). We too have recognized the presence of an
adversary as a necessary factor for Sixth Amendment protec-
tion. In United States v. Jackson, 

, 844 (7th Cir.
1989), for example, we held that a defendant’s uncounseled
interview with a probation officer in the course of the of-
ficer’s preparation of the presentence report was not a criti-
cal stage precisely because the “probation officer does not
have an adversarial role in the sentencing proceedings.” Ra-
ther than serving as an arm of the prosecutor, “the probation
officer serves as a neutral information gatherer for the sen-
tencing judge.” 

majority acknowledges that the Court has never ad-
dressed a claim like Schmidt’s. But it points out that a case
need not present facts identical to those previously consid-
ered by the Court for clearly established precedent to govern
it. The Court has said that a state court acts unreasonably for
purposes of § 2254(d)(1) if it “refuses to extend [controlling
Supreme Court precedent] to a new context where it should
apply.” Williams v. Taylor, 

, 407 (2000). The major-
ity reasons that the Wisconsin trial court’s questioning of
Schmidt is such a context—not one that the Court has con-
fronted before, but one to which its “critical stage” precedent
clearly extends.
   This reasoning only works, however, if the controlling
precedent is read at the level of generality the majority pro-
poses—as establishing the right to counsel in any post-
indictment proceeding in which legal assistance would help
the accused avoid substantial prejudice. If that is the law,
then we need to decide whether the state court unreasonably
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refused to apply it to this new context. But if the precedent is
read more narrowly—as establishing the right to counsel
when the accused faces his adversary—then clearly estab-
lished law does not dictate the outcome. Resolving the Sixth
Amendment question therefore requires us to decide the
level of generality at which to read the Supreme Court’s
precedent.
    Carey v. Musladin answers that question: we track the lev-
el of generality at which the Court has spoken. 

(2006). In Carey, the Court reviewed the Ninth Circuit’s de-
termination that buttons with the victim’s image worn by
courtroom spectators had deprived the habeas petitioner of a
fair trial. The Court had previously held that certain state-
sponsored practices (like compelling a defendant to wear
prison clothing at trial) were “inherently prejudicial,” and
the Ninth Circuit reasoned that the buttons posed a similar
risk. The Court rejected that reasoning. The Ninth Circuit
interpreted the Court’s precedent as establishing a general
rule against courtroom conduct inherently prejudicial to the
defendant; it should have interpreted the Court’s precedent
as establishing a more specific rule against state-sponsored
courtroom conduct inherently prejudicial to the defendant.

The Court emphasized that it “ha[d] never ad-
dressed a claim that such private-actor courtroom conduct
was so inherently prejudicial that it deprived a defendant of
a fair trial.” 

the rule more broadly than the
Court had, the Ninth Circuit held the state responsible for
violating law that was not clearly established.
    So here. The Court has never addressed a claim that a
defendant has a right to counsel in an ex parte and in camera
proceeding before a judge. Like the Ninth Circuit in Carey,
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the majority errs by stating the established law at a higher
level of generality than the Court has. Indeed, the centrality
of adversarial confrontation to the Court’s “critical stage”
jurisprudence makes the extraction of a general principle
from a more specific rule even more evident here than it was
in Carey.
    To be clear, Carey is not inconsistent with the Court’s ad-
monition in Williams v. Taylor that a state court acts unrea-
sonably if it “refuses to extend [controlling Supreme Court
precedent] to a new context where it should 

. A state court cannot treat the Court’s clearly estab-
lished precedent as fact-bound. On the contrary, a state
court, like a reviewing federal court, must respect the level
of generality at which the Court has spoken. Just as a federal
court cannot elevate the level of generality, a state court can-
not contract it. Thus, a state court would act unreasonably if
it refused to recognize a defendant’s right to counsel in a
post-indictment, adversarial proceeding on the ground that
the proceeding was not exactly the same as those the Court
has previously addressed. Clearly established law does not
entitle the defendant to counsel in a laundry list of specific
proceedings, but in “proceedings between an individual and
agents of the State … that amount to ‘trial-like confronta-
tions,’ at which counsel would help the accused ‘in coping
with legal problems or … meeting his adversary.” Rothgery v.
Gillespie County, 

, 212 n.16 (2008) (citations omit-
ted). The state court is obliged to follow that rule, even if the
factual circumstance is new. But under AEDPA, we cannot
hold the state court accountable for declining to expand the
rule itself.
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     Perhaps the right to counsel should extend to a hearing
like the one the judge conducted in Schmidt’s case. But
AEDPA precludes us from disturbing a state court’s judg-
ment on the ground that a state court decided an open ques-
tion differently than we would—or, for that matter, differ-
ently than we think the Court would. Because the Court has
never addressed the question that the Wisconsin Court of
Appeals faced, there was no clearly established precedent for
it to flout.
                              II.
    The majority does not rely exclusively on an extension of
the Court’s “critical stage” cases to nonadversarial proceed-
ings. Its opinion appears to rest on a second rationale: that
this proceeding was functionally adversarial. While it stops
short of actually calling the judge the defendant’s “adver-
sary,” it strongly implies that the judge stood in the shoes of
the prosecutor. The majority’s reasoning, then, seems to be
twofold. Clearly established Supreme Court precedent is not
limited to adversarial proceedings, but in any event, this
proceeding was functionally adversarial and risked substan-
tial prejudice to Schmidt. In concluding otherwise, the Wis-
consin Court of Appeals unreasonably applied clearly estab-
lished federal law.
    The majority gives too little deference to the Wisconsin
Court of Appeals. A state-court decision is “unreasonable”
under § 2254(d) if it is “so lacking in justification that there
was an error well understood and comprehended in existing
law beyond any possibility for fairminded disagreement.”
Woods v. Etherton, – U.S. –, 

, 1151 (2016) (per
curiam) (citation and quotation marks omitted); see also Har-
rington v. Richter, 

, 102 (2011) (Section 2254(d)
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“preserves authority to issue the writ in cases where there is
no possibility fairminded jurists could disagree that the state
court’s decision conflicts with this Court’s precedents.”).
That is a high bar, and Schmidt does not clear it.
                              A.
    The majority holds that the Wisconsin Court of Appeals
unreasonably applied the Court’s “critical stage” jurispru-
dence when it concluded that the ex parte and in camera pro-
ceeding was nonadversarial. Given the prosecutor’s absence,
it was certainly not “adversarial” in the ordinary sense of the
word—or in the sense that the Court has employed it in the
cases. In an effort to get around that, the majority character-
izes the proceeding as “inquisitorial.” If used in its benign
sense—as referring to the system of proof-taking in civil law
systems—the word “inquisitorial” by definition means non-
adversarial. See Majority Op. at 15 n.3. At some points in its
opinion, the majority concedes that the proceeding was non-
adversarial and faults it on that ground. See, e.g., Majority
Op. at 14. (That concession, of course, forecloses the argu-
ment that the Wisconsin Court of Appeals unreasonably
characterized the ex parte and in camera hearing as a nonad-
versarial one.) Elsewhere, however, the majority asserts that
the proceeding was adversarial. Majority Op. at 22–23. This
suggests that the majority is using the description “inquisi-
torial” as it is often deployed in American criminal cases—to
describe a proceeding in which the accused faces an aggres-
sive questioner gathering evidence against him. See, e.g., Mil-
ler v. Fenton, 

, 110 (1985); Miranda v. Arizona, 

, 442–43 (1966). And while the majority does not at-
tribute ill will to the judge, it does cast him as Schmidt’s ad-
versary. Majority Op. at 23 (asserting that the hearing was a
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“trial-like confrontation” in which “the judge took the ac-
cused and his (silenced) lawyer into chambers to question
him about the facts supporting the defense”).
   The transcript, however, contains no suggestion that the
judge ever functioned as a surrogate prosecutor. His aim was
not to secure Schmidt’s conviction—or, as specifically rele-
vant here, to establish that Schmidt was not entitled to raise
the “adequate provocation” defense. On the contrary, as the
Wisconsin Court of Appeals observed, the judge conducted
the proceeding this way for Schmidt’s benefit.
    The hearing grew out of a dispute between the parties
about when the trial court would decide whether Schmidt
had sufficient evidence to put the “adequate provocation”
defense in issue. Schmidt argued that Wisconsin law re-
quired the court to wait to resolve that question until it in-
structed the jury; doing it before trial, he insisted, would
give the prosecution a preview of his case. The State wanted
the court to rule on the admissibility of Schmidt’s evidence
before trial; otherwise, it argued, the jury would hear a lita-
ny of prejudicial evidence about the victim that might not be
probative of an issue actually in the case. The court agreed
with the State. It decided—in a ruling that the Wisconsin
Court of Appeals ultimately affirmed—that Wisconsin law
gave the trial court the discretion to determine before trial
whether the defendant could carry his burden of production
on the “adequate provocation” defense.
   While the judge decided to make the evidentiary deter-
mination before trial, he was sympathetic to Schmidt’s con-
cern about showing the prosecutor his hand. He proposed
the ex parte and in camera hearing as a way of addressing that
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concern. Defense counsel responded as follows to the court’s
proposal:
        A suggestion that I was going to bring up today is
        that the Court, if you are going to ask for evidence
        from the defendant or evidence that goes to his
        subjective belief for adequate provocation, is that,
        in fact, we would do an ex parte in-camera inspec-
        tion of the Court and the defendant and seal those
        records because I don’t think it would be—it
        should be allowed to the State and should have
        that information prior to trial.
Transcript of Motion Hearing 2.10.2010 at 5. The court want-
ed defense counsel to accompany Schmidt, but because the
prosecution was barred from the hearing, the court instruct-
ed defense counsel to function as an observer only. The pros-
ecutor agreed to the proceeding on that condition. Had
Schmidt’s counsel actively participated, the judge would
have included the prosecutor, and Schmidt wanted the pros-
ecutor out of the room.
    The majority puts little weight on the prosecutor’s ab-
sence, because it suggests that the judge filled the prosecu-
tor’s shoes. 4 The judge, however, spoke very little during the


    4
      The majority also suggests that the ex parte and in camera proceed-
ing followed on the heels of the prosecutor’s oral argument about why
Schmidt’s evidence fell short of what was necessary to carry his burden
of production. Majority Op. at 21. But the judge did not hear arguments
about the substance of the adequate provocation issue from either side
before he examined Schmidt. He “entertain[ed] comments from counsel”
on the procedural questions of whether he could resolve the burden-of-
production question before trial and whether he could do an in camera
inspection of Schmidt. Transcript of Motion Hearing 2.10.2010 at 2–7.
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hearing. Instead, he primarily listened as Schmidt testified
about his state of mind before he shot his wife. 5 And far
from positioning himself as Schmidt’s adversary, the judge
tried to help him by calling a recess so that Schmidt could
review the written offer of proof with his counsel. 6 The offer
of proof was a roadmap for Schmidt’s testimony. It contained
a timeline of the allegedly provocative events, and the judge
wanted Schmidt to refresh his memory so that he didn’t
overlook any. Before the recess, he told Schmidt “that you
might not state all of the things that are in the offer of proof,
possibly because you … haven’t had an opportunity to re-
view this.” Transcript of Proceedings at 25. When the hear-
ing resumed, the judge asked Schmidt how the incidents de-
scribed in the document might have affected his state of
mind.
    In retrospect, it may have been better for the judge to de-
cline Schmidt’s request for an ex parte and in camera hearing.
There would be no Sixth Amendment question before us if


The rest of the hearing dealt with various trial-management matters. At
no point did the prosecutor make an argument about why Schmidt’s ev-
idence of adequate provocation was insufficient.
     5
     Schmidt, who testified voluntarily, does not argue that the court vi-
olated his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. As the trial
court noted “[the pretrial hearing] accelerates what the defendant might
already say in a trial, but it is the defendant that chooses to present this
defense.” Transcript of Motion Hearing 2.10.2010 at 4.
     6
      During this recess, the judge permitted defense counsel to confer
with Schmidt while the judge stepped out to make a phone call. Defense
counsel asked: “Am I allowed to talk to my client now or not?” The
judge responded: “It’s off the record. Yeah, you can talk. But he should
just be reviewing [the offer of proof].” Transcript of Proceedings at 26.
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the judge had proceeded in the normal course, with both
lawyers participating. That said, the judge structured the
hearing as he did in an effort to accommodate Schmidt, and
the transcript reflects that the judge remained neutral
throughout it. It was therefore reasonable for the Wisconsin
Court of Appeals to conclude that this was not a trial-like
confrontation in which Schmidt was entitled to counsel to
“compensate[] for advantages of the prosecuting authori-
ties.” 

.
                                   B.
   It is not enough for Schmidt to demonstrate that the Wis-
consin Court of Appeals unreasonably concluded that this
proceeding was nonadversarial. To secure relief, Schmidt
must also show that no fairminded judge could conclude
that this hearing lacked the potential to substantially preju-
dice him. That is yet another ground on which Schmidt’s ar-
gument fails.
    According to the majority, “The prejudice [Schmidt] suf-
fered came from disclosing irrelevant details and diluting
the evidence that could support his defense.” Majority Op. at
32. In other words, Schmidt was harmed because his ram-
bling narrative failed to focus the judge on the evidence
most helpful to his “adequate provocation” defense. The
idea that the judge—who knew the legal elements of the ad-
equate provocation defense—was incapable of separating
the wheat from the chaff sells the judge short.7 But in any

    7
      The majority also sells the trial judge short with its argument that
by saying too much, Schmidt risked confusing the judge about whether
he was supposed to resolve the merits or decide whether Schmidt had
carried his burden of production on the defense. Majority Op. at 25–26.
This argument not only underrates the judge (and the court of appeals
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event, the judge was not left to cull the evidence without in-
put from defense counsel. As the Wisconsin Court of Ap-
peals said, the examination of Schmidt was supplementary.
The judge went into it already having reviewed a legal anal-
ysis of the adequate provocation defense; a detailed timeline
of the relevant events; the summarized testimony of 29 wit-
nesses who observed his wife’s allegedly provocative behav-
ior; a hotel reservation that Schmidt discovered shortly be-
fore the shooting and took as evidence of his wife’s infideli-
ty; and a copy of a statement that Schmidt gave police at the
scene that detailed some of what was in his mind when he
shot his wife. So even if Schmidt’s testimony cluttered the
record with irrelevant details, the written evidence focused
the judge on the key facts.
    The Wisconsin Court of Appeals acknowledged that it
might have been more efficient to have counsel guide the
presentation of Schmidt’s testimony. But the fact that the par-
ticipation of counsel would have been helpful to Schmidt
does not necessarily mean that the lack of counsel risked
substantial prejudice to him. A fairminded jurist could find
that this proceeding, which was reinforced by written evi-
dence, did not risk substantial unfair prejudice to Schmidt.



that affirmed his judgment), but it also rests on an assumption that is
odd given the facts of this case: that Schmidt should have been sparing in
his testimony to avoid “convert[ing] the hearing into a mini-trial on the
merits of his defense rather than a debate about the burden of produc-
tion.” 

As it was, both the Wisconsin trial and appellate courts
found that Schmidt had not introduced enough evidence to get the de-
fense before the jury. Given that his evidence was thin enough to permit
that finding, he would have been ill advised to hold back any evidence
from the judge.
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                              III.
    Because the majority holds that Schmidt is entitled to re-
lief on his Sixth Amendment claim, it does not reach
Schmidt’s claim that the ex parte and in camera hearing arbi-
trarily violated his due process right to present a defense.
For the sake of completeness, I briefly note that I would de-
ny relief on this claim as well.
    In both the Wisconsin Court of Appeals and the federal
district court, Schmidt asserted a claim under Chambers v.
Mississippi, which holds that state evidentiary rules must
yield to the defendant’s due-process right to present a de-
fense. 

(1973). According to Schmidt, Wisconsin
violated the Due Process Clause by requiring him to satisfy a
burden of production (that he produce “some evidence” of
adequate provocation) before he could introduce evidence of
that defense at trial. Both the Wisconsin Court of Appeals
and the federal district court correctly rejected that claim,
because, among other things, none of the cases in which the
Chambers principle has prevailed (and it has prevailed only
rarely) “involved restrictions imposed on a defendant’s abil-
ity to present an affirmative defense.” Gilmore v. Taylor, 

, 343 (1993); see also Kubsch v. Neal, 

, 858
(7th Cir. 2016) (en banc) (discussing Chambers and its proge-
ny). Adequate provocation in Wisconsin is an affirmative de-
fense. Wis. Stat. § 939.44(2).
    Presumably recognizing the weakness of his Chambers
claim, Schmidt has repackaged his due process argument
into a new claim. Before us, he argues not that Wisconsin’s
evidentiary rules must yield to his due process right to put
on a defense, but that the trial court’s use of the ex parte and
in camera process violated the Due Process Clause. Because
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Schmidt did not raise this claim in either the Wisconsin
Court of Appeals or the federal district court, I would deny it
as both procedurally defaulted and forfeited.
                              ***

    The standard for relief under AEDPA is intentionally dif-
ficult because federal habeas review of state convictions
“frustrates both the States’ sovereign power to punish of-
fenders and their good-faith attempts to honor constitutional
rights.” Calderon v. Thompson, 

, 555–56 (1998) (ci-
tation and quotation marks omitted). To reinforce that point,
the Court has not hesitated to reverse the courts of appeals
when they fail to give state courts the deference that AEDPA
requires. See, e.g., Woods, 

; Woods v. Donald, –
 U.S. –, 

(2015) (per curiam); White v. Wheeler, –
 U.S. –, 

(2015) (per curiam); Marshall v. Rodgers,

(2013) (per curiam); Nevada v. Jackson, 

(2013) (per curiam); Parker v. Matthews, 

(2012)
(per curiam); Renico v. Lett, 

(2010). The majority
fails to give the Wisconsin Court of Appeals the required
deference, and I therefore dissent.