United States Court of Appeals
                          FOR THE EIGHTH CIRCUIT
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                                Nos. 98-3370/3713
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McKenzie Engineering Company,            *
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      Petitioner/Cross-Respondent,       *   Petition to Review an Order
                                         *   of the National Labor
      v.                                 *   Relations Board.
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National Labor Relations Board,          *
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      Respondent/Cross-Petitioner.
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                             Submitted: March 10, 1999

                                  Filed: June 25, 1999
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Before McMILLIAN and MORRIS SHEPPARD ARNOLD, Circuit Judges, and
      NANGLE,1 District Judge.
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MORRIS SHEPPARD ARNOLD, Circuit Judge.

      This case concerns a labor dispute between McKenzie Engineering Company
and the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America, Local 410,
AFL-CIO (the union). The dispute arose during a project involving repairs to an
icebreaker structure located on a dam in the Mississippi River near Keokuk, Iowa. The
union filed charges against McKenzie before the National Labor Relations Board

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        The Honorable John F. Nangle, United States District Judge for the Eastern
District of Missouri, sitting by designation.
(NLRB), which subsequently found that McKenzie had engaged in unfair labor
practices in violation of several provisions of the National Labor Relations Act
(NLRA). See 29 U.S.C. § 158(a)(1), § 158(a)(3), § 158(a)(5). McKenzie petitions for
reversal of the NLRB's decision and remedy order, and the NLRB cross-petitions for
enforcement of its order. We deny McKenzie's petition for reversal and grant the
NLRB's cross-petition for enforcement of its order.

                                            I.
       When McKenzie began work on the Keokuk dam project in May, 1995, it was
a party to a "pre-hire" collective bargaining agreement with the union, see 29 U.S.C.
§ 158(f), that covered certain types of construction work in specific counties of Iowa
and Missouri. The agreement required that McKenzie give the union the first
opportunity to provide carpenters to perform work covered by the agreement, and
recognized the union as the bargaining agent for those carpenters. In May and June,
1995, McKenzie hired four union carpenters to work on the Keokuk dam project. In
November, McKenzie fired the union carpenters and replaced them with non-union
workers. For the remainder of the project, McKenzie continued to employ non-union
workers to perform the work previously done by the union carpenters, without giving
the union the first opportunity to refer workers to it.

       The NLRB found that McKenzie’s actions amounted to a repudiation of the
collective bargaining agreement, in violation of 29 U.S.C. § 158(a)(1) (unfair labor
practice to interfere with, coerce, or restrain employees in exercise of rights guaranteed
under the NLRA) and § 158(a)(5) (unfair labor practice to refuse to bargain collectively
with representatives chosen by employees). See also NLRB v. W. L. Miller Co., 

, 746, 748 (8th Cir. 1989) (pre-hire agreement binds employer for its term).
McKenzie concedes that it withdrew recognition from the union and began hiring non-
union workers but contends that no violation occurred, because the provisions of the
collective bargaining agreement did not include the type of construction work involved
in the Keokuk dam project. In support of its position, McKenzie relies on language in

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the collective bargaining agreement that recognizes the existence of a separate
agreement covering "Highway and Heavy construction work," and provides that "[t]his
Agreement excludes work under the Highway and Heavy ... contract[]."

       The "Highway and Heavy" contract, to which the union and certain contractors
were signatories, covered work on "dams" and "breakwaters," which was arguably the
type of construction work performed by the carpenters on the Keokuk dam project.
Although McKenzie was not itself a party to the "Highway and Heavy" contract, it
points out that the collective bargaining agreement does not state that an employer must
be a signatory to that contract for the exclusion to apply. Thus, McKenzie contends,
the collective bargaining agreement did not apply to the work on the Keokuk dam
project, because that work was "work under [the] Highway and Heavy ... contract[]."

       We agree with the NLRB, however, that this language in the collective
bargaining agreement is at best ambiguous with respect to the central question here,
namely, whether an employer who is not itself a party to the "Highway and Heavy"
contract can nevertheless be engaged in work "under" that contract, and thus excepted
from the coverage of the collective bargaining agreement. In light of this ambiguity,
we think that the NLRB properly looked beyond the four corners of the agreement to
consider the parties' practice, usage, and custom regarding the agreement. See
Transportation-Communication Employees Union v. Union Pacific Railroad Co., 

, 161 (1966); see also Rainbow Glass Co. v. Local Union No. 610, 

, 817 (8th Cir. 1981). We further note that where, as here, the terms of a collective
bargaining agreement are ambiguous, questions of its interpretation must be resolved
by the trier of fact, and we will accord deference to that interpretation. See Central
States, Southeast and Southwest Areas Pension Fund v. Kroger Co., 

, 732
(7th Cir. 1996).

       We think that substantial evidence exists in the record to support the NLRB's
finding that both McKenzie and the union believed that the collective bargaining

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agreement applied to the Keokuk dam project (and thus that it did in fact apply) and
that both parties adhered to the terms of that agreement until McKenzie repudiated it
in November, 1995. Since becoming incorporated in 1986, McKenzie had been a party
to several successive collective bargaining agreements with the union and had followed
the conditions set out in those agreements when hiring carpenters to perform work on
earlier construction projects. When it began work on the Keokuk dam project in May,
1995, McKenzie continued its practice of hiring carpenters through the union and
applying the terms of the collective bargaining agreement.

       From May until November, neither McKenzie nor the union raised any question
regarding the applicability of the agreement, or the possible exclusion of the Keokuk
dam project under the "Highway and Heavy" contract provision. On the contrary,
during that period McKenzie exclusively hired employees referred by the Union for
carpentry work on the project and handled various employee complaints with the
assistance of the union's business representative. McKenzie, moreover, deducted the
amounts specified in the collective bargaining agreement for dues, vacation, and
pension funds. Finally, statements by McKenzie's president suggest that he considered
the union carpenters to be covered by the agreement: For example, he testified that
during a dispute with the carpenters over their refusal to work in the rain, he said,
"[Y]our contract doesn't read like that at all."

      We therefore conclude that substantial evidence exists in the record to support
the NLRB's finding that McKenzie repudiated the collective bargaining agreement with
the union in violation of two sections of the NLRA. See 29 U.S.C. § 158(a)(1),
§ 158(a)(5). Indeed, McKenzie's posited construction of the agreement is barely
plausible.

                                    II.
     The NLRB also found that McKenzie discharged union carpenters Fred Arnold,
Donald Patterson, Steve Perry, and Mark Spiekermeier because of their union

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membership and as part of the company’s plan to repudiate the collective bargaining
agreement with the union, in violation of several provisions of the NLRA. See 29
U.S.C. § 158(a)(1), § 158(a)(3) (employer may not use discriminatory employment
practices to discourage membership in labor organizations).

       McKenzie points out that in the union's complaint to the NLRB, the NLRB
General Counsel (who presents the union's position to the NLRB) alleged that
McKenzie discharged the four union carpenters because they “assisted the Union and
engaged in concerted activities,” not because of their union membership or as part of
the company’s plan to sever relations with the union. Relying on this discrepancy,
McKenzie contends that the NLRB violated due process by finding violations based
on a “new 'theory' of liability” outside the scope of the allegations by the union without
giving McKenzie notice and an opportunity to litigate the issue.

        We disagree. It is clear from our precedents that “[a] respondent to an agency
action ... has been accorded due process if the record shows that it understood the
issues and was afforded a full opportunity to meet the charges.” Citizens State Bank
v. FDIC, 

, 213 (8th Cir. 1984); see also NLRB v. Mackay Radio and
Telegraph Co., 

, 350 (1938). Regardless of the specific allegations made
in the complaint, we think that it is clear from the record that a significant portion of the
litigation in this case focused on whether McKenzie discharged the employees in
question as an integral part of its plan to terminate its relationship with the union. We
believe that McKenzie had a full and fair opportunity to defend its decision to fire the
union carpenters, and we therefore conclude that no due process violation occurred.

        McKenzie also objects to the NLRB’s factual findings and contends that it
discharged all four carpenters for legitimate reasons unconnected to their union
membership. The company maintains that it fired Mr. Arnold and Mr. Perry because
they failed to show up for work on the morning of November 1. It further maintains
that it fired Mr. Patterson and Mr. Spiekermeier because they engaged in a “work

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stoppage” at the construction site that same day. The NLRB found, however, that
McKenzie failed to show that the four employees would have been discharged for those
reasons in the absence of a plan by McKenzie to terminate its relationship with the
union. See Pace Industries, Inc. v. NLRB, 

, 590 (8th Cir. 1997), cert.
denied, 

(1998) (in mixed-motive case, once NLRB General Counsel
establishes prima facie case that protected conduct was motivating factor in employer’s
decision, burden of production shifts to employer to show that same action would have
taken place in absence of protected conduct).

        We think that the record contains sufficient evidence to support the NLRB’s
findings. McKenzie presented no evidence that it would have fired Mr. Arnold and
Mr. Perry for their unexcused absences on November 1 if it had not intended to sever
relations with the union. Although McKenzie's president testified that he complained
to the union's business representative about the employees’ absences on the morning
of November 1, it is undisputed that the conversation contained no suggestion that
McKenzie was considering discharging Mr. Arnold and Mr. Perry for their absences.
Indeed, although McKenzie's president initially testified at the hearing before an
administrative law judge that Mr. Perry was fired because of the November 1 absence,
he later testified that Mr. Perry was a “very good” worker but was fired because “if you
have three of them gone you might as well have the fourth one gone.” We think that
the NLRB reasonably found from this testimony that McKenzie’s proffered reason for
discharging Mr. Arnold and Mr. Perry was pretextual and that the carpenters were in
fact fired as part of McKenzie’s plan to sever its relationship with the union.

       As for McKenzie’s proffered reason for terminating Mr. Patterson and
Mr. Spiekermeier, at the hearing both Mr. Patterson and Mr. Spiekermeier denied
having engaged in a work stoppage on November 1. They further testified that the
project supervisor called off work later that morning because it had started to rain and
that they decided to stop at the union hall on their way home to chat with the union's
business representative. All three men testified to the effect that McKenzie's president

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walked into the business representative's office, asked Mr. Patterson and
Mr. Spiekermeier why they were not at work, and then said, according to the business
representative, “I quit, I’m getting my own people, you go your way, I’ll go my way.”
The NLRB credited the testimony of Mr. Patterson, Mr. Spiekermeier, and the business
representative over that of McKenzie’s witnesses. After carefully reviewing the record,
we see no reason to set aside the NLRB’s credibility findings. See Pace Industries,

(court affords great deference to NLRB’s affirmation of
administrative law judge’s findings and credibility determinations).

       We therefore conclude that sufficient evidence exists in the record to support the
NLRB’s finding that McKenzie fired Mr. Arnold, Mr. Patterson, Mr. Perry, and
Mr. Spiekermeier because of their membership in the union and in furtherance of a plan
to withdraw recognition from the union, in violation of two sections of the NLRA. See
29 U.S.C. § 158(a)(1), § 158(a)(3).

                                         III.
      The NLRB also found that McKenzie violated 29 U.S.C. § 158(a)(1) by
discouraging Vern Pascal, a diver hired by McKenzie to work on the Keokuk dam
project, from joining the union and by encouraging him to withdraw his membership
from the union after he had joined. We think that ample evidence exists in the record
to support that finding.

      Mr. Pascal testified that on two occasions McKenzie's president offered to pay
him $2.00 per hour above the union’s pay scale if he would refrain from joining the
union. Mr. Pascal also testified that when the union's business representative
approached him about joining, McKenzie's president stood behind the business
representative throughout the conversation and shook his head “no.” Finally,
Mr. Pascal testified that a few weeks after he joined the union, and soon after
McKenzie discharged the other union employees, McKenzie's president again
approached him and explained that he “would like to do away with the union.”

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According to Mr. Pascal, McKenzie's president offered him a company-sponsored
health plan and offered to reimburse the $250 union initiation fee that he had paid if he
would withdraw his union membership.

       In his own testimony, McKenzie's president offered alternative explanations for
his discussions with Mr. Pascal regarding wages and benefits and for his negative
headshaking during the conversation with the union's business representative. The
NLRB credited the testimony of Mr. Pascal over that of McKenzie's president,
however, and we defer to that credibility determination. See Pace Industries, 

. We conclude that the record contains substantial evidence to support
the NLRB’s finding that McKenzie violated 29 U.S.C. § 158(a)(1) by offering
Mr. Pascal economic inducements to dissuade him from joining, or continuing his
membership in, the union.

                                         IV.
        McKenzie's president made several statements in the presence of his employees
on the Keokuk dam project that the company “would have to go non-Union” and that
unions "were on their way out.” The NLRB found that these remarks had an
“inherently coercive impact” upon the employees who overheard them and thus
interfered with the employees' rights in violation of 29 U.S.C. § 158(a)(1). See
DeQueen General Hospital v. NLRB, 

, 614 (8th Cir. 1984) (test is
whether employer engaged in conduct that reasonably tends to interfere with, restrain,
or coerce employees in exercise of rights guaranteed by NLRA). McKenzie contests
that finding.

       In reviewing the NLRB's finding, this court "must recognize the Board's
competence in the first instance to judge the impact of utterances made in the context
of the employer-employee relationship." NLRB v. Gissel Packing Co., 

,
620 (1969). After carefully reviewing the record, we believe that the NLRB was
reasonable in determining that the statements in question amounted to an unlawful

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attempt to interfere with the employees' right to union membership, in furtherance of
a plan to terminate McKenzie's relationship with the union. We therefore conclude that
substantial evidence exists in the record to support the NLRB's finding that those
remarks violated 29 U.S.C. § 158(a)(1).

                                         V.
       The NLRB issued a remedy order requiring, among other things, reinstatement
and back pay for the four discharged union employees. McKenzie contends that
reinstatement and back pay are inappropriate remedies because the Keokuk dam
project has been completed and there is no evidence that McKenzie would have hired
these same individuals for subsequent construction projects.

        We believe, however, that the appropriateness of such a remedy should be
resolved at the compliance stage of this proceeding. See Sure-Tan, Inc. v. NLRB, 

, 902 (1984) (“courts have long recognized the Board’s normal policy of
modifying its general reinstatement and backpay remedy in subsequent compliance
proceedings”). At the compliance proceeding, McKenzie will have a full opportunity
to litigate the appropriateness of the NLRB's remedy and to avoid the reinstatement
obligation altogether by showing that the union carpenters would not have been hired
for work on subsequent projects. See Amcar Division, ACF Industries, Inc. v. NLRB,

, 432 (8th Cir. 1979) (determination of employees’ entitlement to back
pay was appropriate for litigation at subsequent compliance proceeding); Dean General
Contractors, 

, 573-75 (1987) (determination whether, absent
discrimination, employer would have transferred employee to another jobsite upon
termination of initial project is best resolved by factual inquiry at compliance
proceeding).

                                       VI.
      For the foregoing reasons, we deny McKenzie's petition for reversal and grant
the NLRB's cross-petition for enforcement of its order.

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A true copy.

      Attest:

         CLERK, U.S. COURT OF APPEALS, EIGHTH CIRCUIT.




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