United States Court of Appeals
                           FOR THE EIGHTH CIRCUIT
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                                   No. 02-4123
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Vladimir Obleshchenko; Natalia         *
Obleshchenko; Yekaterina               *
Obleshchenko; Yelena Obleshchenko,     *
                                       *
            Petitioners,               *
                                       * Petition for Review of a Decision of
      v.                               * the Board of Immigration Appeals.
                                       *
John Ashcroft, Attorney General of the *
United States of America,              *
                                       *
            Respondent.                *
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                             Submitted: October 18, 2004
                                Filed: December 20, 2004
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Before MORRIS SHEPPARD ARNOLD, BOWMAN, and RILEY, Circuit Judges.
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MORRIS SHEPPARD ARNOLD, Circuit Judge.

      Vladimir Obleshchenko, his wife, and his children petition for review of an
order of the Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA) upholding the denial by an
immigration judge (IJ) of the Obleshenkos' applications for asylum and withholding
of deportation. The Obleshchenkos argue that their counsel for the hearing before the
IJ provided them with ineffective assistance and that the IJ's decision on the merits
was incorrect. We affirm.
                                              I.
        Because deportation proceedings are civil and not criminal, the only possible
ground for a claim of ineffective assistance of counsel in the current circumstances
is the fifth amendment's due process clause. Nativi-Gomez v. Ashcroft, 

,
807 (8th Cir. 2003). But in order for such a claim to succeed, the Obleshchenkos
must have "a protected liberty or property interest," which cannot be found in
"statutorily created relief that is subject to the unfettered discretion of a governmental
authority." 

The statute in effect when the Obleshchenkos applied for
asylum provided that, even if they qualified as refugees, the Attorney General still
had discretion to deny them asylum. 8 U.S.C. § 1158 (1994); INS v. Cardoza-
Fonseca, 

, 428 n.5 (1987). Thus, they had no right to effective
assistance with respect to their asylum claim.

       Withholding deportation is another matter entirely, because deportation must
be withheld if the Obleshchenkos' "li[ves] or freedom would be threatened" in the
Ukraine "on account of ... religion," 8 U.S.C. § 1253(h)(1) (1994), and therefore they
have a liberty interest in having their deportation withheld. We have serious doubts,
however, that a fifth amendment right to counsel exists in civil deportation
proceedings. Constitutional rights are rights against the government; that is, they
ensure that the government will not act in a certain way. Because this is necessarily
as true of rights secured by the fifth amendment as it is of any other constitutional
right, we find it difficult to see how an individual, such as the Obleshchenkos'
attorney, who is not a state actor, can deprive anyone of due process rights.

       We are aware, however, that other circuits have held that due process can be
violated by the ineffective assistance of counsel at deportation or exclusion
proceedings, see, e.g., Xu Yong Lu v. Ashcroft, 

, 131-32 (3d Cir. 2001);
Lozada v. INS, 

, 13-14 (1st Cir. 1988), and the government has not argued
to the contrary. We therefore assume without deciding that the Obleshchenkos had



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a right to have their counsel effectively represent them in their withholding-of-
deportation claim. Cf. 

n.1.

       In order to prevail on a due-process ineffective-assistance claim, the
Obleshchenkos must establish that they were prejudiced by counsel's performance,
Esposito v. INS, 

, 111 (2d Cir. 1993) (per curiam); Matter of Lozada,
19 I. & N. Dec. 637, 638, 640 (BIA 1988), by showing that their attorney's
performance was so inadequate that it " 'may well have resulted in a deportation that
would not otherwise have occurred.' " See United States v. Torres-Sanchez, 

, 230 (8th Cir. 1995) (quoting United States v. Santos-Vanegas, 

, 251
(8th Cir. 1989)); see also Al-Khouri v. Ashcroft, 

, 466 (8th Cir. 2004).
We believe that this standard is akin to the requirement under the sixth amendment
that there be "a reasonable probability that, but for counsel's unprofessional errors,
the result of the proceeding would have been different," where "reasonable
probability" means "a probability sufficient to undermine confidence in the outcome."
See Strickland v. Washington, 

, 694 (1984).

        To determine whether the Obleshchenkos have demonstrated prejudice, we ask
whether there is a reasonable probability that the IJ would have altered his judgment
had the Obleshchenkos been represented by what they consider competent counsel.
As the IJ's order indicates, the biggest obstacle for the Obleshchenkos in proving that
they faced religious persecution was the absence of a claim of religious persecution
in their asylum application and the absence of corroborating evidence of religious
affiliation. According to the Obleshchenkos, competent counsel would have built a
record before the IJ that included both an amended application for asylum on the
basis of religious persecution and evidence corroborating the Obleshchenkos' Baptist
affiliation.

       Even if the record had included this evidence, however, our confidence in the
IJ's decision would not have been undermined, because the weight of two items of

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evidence that supported the IJ's decision would not change materially. First, when
asked at his deportation hearing to explain why his asylum application never
mentioned the religious persecution to which he testified at the hearing,
Mr. Obleshchenko gave three different answers, casting doubt on his credibility.
Revealingly, not once did Mr. Obleshchenko blame his attorney for failing to file a
revised application. Instead, he maintained that he misunderstood the application,
was afraid to reveal the information (even though he showed no hesitation at the
hearing), and was waiting for a hearing before speaking about the persecution he
suffered (without explaining why he thought it important to wait). Second, in
reaching his decision, the IJ relied on the State Department's country report
documenting the Ukrainian government's tolerance of different religions and the
absence of government-sponsored religious persecution.

       Furthermore, although the Obleshchenkos contend that competent counsel
would have provided the IJ with corroborating evidence of their religious affiliation,
the only corroborating document they filed on appeal to the BIA (where they had
different representation and first raised their ineffective-assistance claim) was a letter
from a Baptist pastor in the Ukraine who said that the Obleshchenkos attended his
church until 1990; they did not provide any evidence of their Baptist affiliation
during the years after 1990. Those later years are the most critical to this case, since
during that period the Ukraine declared its independence from the communist Soviet
Union and Mr. Obleshchenko was subjected to the beating that caused the
Obleshchenkos to flee the Ukraine. Thus, we do not think that the letter would have
swayed the IJ.

      We therefore believe it reasonably plain that the IJ would have denied the
Obleshchenkos' application for withholding deportation even if their counsel had
acted as they assert she should have. We therefore detect no prejudice to the
Obleshchenkos resulting from their counsel's performance.



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                                           II.
       We also reject the Obleshchenkos' assertion that the IJ erred in rejecting their
applications. The evidence that we have rehearsed above provided an ample basis for
the result that the IJ reached. There was substantial evidence on the record as a whole
for disbelieving the Obleshchenkos' account, and the IJ gave specific, cogent reasons
for his disbelief. See Perinpanathan v. INS, 

, 597 (8th Cir. 2002).

                                       III.
      We therefore affirm the decision of the BIA.
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