The principal question before this Court is whether statements of a coconspirator in an arson-insurance mail fraud conspiracy, which were uttered before the conspirators had collected the insurance proceeds and which were aimed at avoiding detection of the conspiracy, were in furtherance of the conspiracy and therefore admissible as evidence against another coconspirator. We hold that such statements fall within Fed.R.Evid. 801(d)(2)(E),1 the coconspirator exception to the hearsay rule.

* A panel of this Court initially heard a joint appeal by appellant Clifford Howard ("Clifford")2 and another defendant, Charles Shelton ("Charles"), from convictions for conspiracy and mail and wire fraud. The facts surrounding this appeal are set forth in some detail in the panel opinion, which is reported at 752 F.2d 220 (6th Cir.1985). Briefly, Charles and a friend, Johnny Howard ("Johnny"), burned the home belonging to Clifford and his wife, Harriett, who was also Charles' sister, to obtain insurance proceeds. The scheme eventually failed when Johnny became a government informant after he and Charles had committed the arson but before Clifford and Harriett had collected the insurance proceeds. As a government informant, Johnny recorded two conversations that he had with Charles relating to the arson of the house.3

The District Court admitted the tapes of those conversations against appellant pursuant to Fed.R.Evid. 801(d)(2)(E). The original panel of this Court affirmed Charles' convictions, but by a divided vote, reversed Clifford's convictions on the ground that the two conversations between Johnny and Charles were not admissible against Clifford because the conversations were not in furtherance of the conspiracy. In an order dated April 19, 1985, this Court granted a rehearing en banc vacating the previous opinion and judgment in Clifford's appeal only.

The central question on en banc review is whether the District Court violated Fed.R.Evid. 801(d)(2)(E) in admitting into evidence against Clifford the tape recorded conversations between Johnny and Charles. In United States v. Enright, 579 F.2d 980, 986 (6th Cir.1978), this Court held that before the government may use the coconspirator exception to the hearsay rule, the government must show by a preponderance of the evidence that: (1) a conspiracy existed; (2) the defendant against whom the government seeks to introduce the hearsay evidence was a member of that conspiracy; and (3) a coconspirator made the hearsay statement in the course and in furtherance of the conspiracy. See also United States v. Hamilton, 689 F.2d 1262, 1268 (6th Cir.1982), cert. denied, 459 U.S. 1117, 103 S. Ct. 753, 74 L. Ed. 2d 971 (1983); United States v. Vinson, 606 F.2d 149, 152 (6th Cir.1979), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 1074, 100 S. Ct. 1020, 62 L. Ed. 2d 756 reh'g denied, 445 U.S. 972, 100 S. Ct. 1668, 64 L. Ed. 2d 251 (1980). Appellant challenges only the third requirement.

Appellant correctly observes that an agreement to conceal a completed crime does not extend the life of a conspiracy, Grunewald v. United States, 353 U.S. 391, 405, 77 S. Ct. 963, 974, 1 L. Ed. 2d 931 (1957); Krulewitch v. United States, 336 U.S. 440, 442-44, 69 S. Ct. 716, 717-18, 93 L. Ed. 790 (1949). Here, however, the conspiracy to defraud the insurance company of the insurance proceeds was still ongoing. The insurance company had not paid the insurance claim at the time of the taped conversations and was still investigating the cause of the fire.

The challenged testimony in United States v. Krulewitch, supra, involved a conversation that allegedly occurred more than a month and a half after the woman, whom defendant had allegedly induced to travel from New York to Florida for the purpose of prostitution, had gone to Miami. Since the central aim of the alleged conspiracy to transport a woman from one state to another for prostitution had long since ended, the Supreme Court held that the district court erred in admitting the hearsay as evidence against the defendant because the conversation was not in furtherance of the conspiracy. The Court rejected the notion that after the central objectives of a criminal conspiracy have succeeded or failed, a subsidiary phase of the conspiracy, which has the conspiracy's concealment as its sole objective, always survives. Krulewitch, however, does not stand for the proposition that acts or statements made to avoid detection of a criminal conspiracy can never further the conspiracy. Rather, Krulewitch implies that avoidance of detection can further a conspiracy if the conspiracy has not achieved its central aim.

The Supreme Court has explicitly recognized that acts of concealment can further a criminal conspiracy as long as the conspirators are acting to advance their main criminal objectives. In Grunewald v. United States, supra, the Court stated:

[A] vital distinction must be made between acts of concealment done in furtherance of the main criminal objectives of the conspiracy, and acts of concealment done after these central objectives have been attained, for the purpose only of covering up after the crime.

Id., 353 U.S. at 405, 77 S. Ct. at 974 (emphasis in original). Grunewald involved a conspiracy to defraud the government of tax revenues by obtaining "no prosecution" rulings. Since the main objective of the conspiracy had been obtained, the Supreme Court held that the conspirators' later attempts to conceal the conspiracy did not extend the three-year statute of limitations. The Court, however, specifically discussed the example of a kidnapping conspiracy in its analysis. The Court reasoned that a kidnapping conspiracy's acts of concealment while waiting for ransom constitute acts of concealment in furtherance of the objectives of the conspiracy itself. On the other hand, the kidnappers' acts of concealment after they have abandoned the kidnapped person and seek to avoid detection, do not further the conspiracy's main objective.

Appellant contends that the taped conversations had no purpose or effect of furthering any object of any alleged conspiracy. We disagree. Since the insurance company had not settled the insurance claim at the time of the tape recorded conversations, the conspiracy's central objective to secure the insurance proceeds had not been achieved or abandoned. In both the taped recorded conversations and at trial, Johnny and Charles indicated that they knew and Clifford knew that the Kentucky State Police and the insurance company were investigating the suspicious circumstances surrounding the fire. The detection of the arson scheme by either the Kentucky State Police or the insurance company would thwart their efforts to obtain the insurance proceeds. The conspirators had to conceal Charles' and Johnny's part in burning down the house until the insurance company paid the proceeds or there would be no payment. These conversations, designed to keep the insurance company or the Kentucky State Police from uncovering the arson until the money was paid, were at least partly calculated to further the aim of securing the insurance proceeds. The need for concealment in this case is analagous to the kidnapping example the Supreme Court suggested in Grunewald. The Court recognized that since kidnappers must conceal their identity and location to obtain the payment of the ransom, the usual object of kidnapping, such acts of concealment would constitute acts in furtherance of a kidnapping conspiracy. In this case, avoiding detection of the arson and arsonists was also important to the objective of the conspiracy because detection would thwart the collection of the insurance proceeds. We hold that the tape recorded conversations between Johnny and Charles were made in furtherance of the conspiracy to defraud the insurance company.

The Seventh Circuit has reached the same result in an analogous case. In United States v. Xheka, 704 F.2d 974, 985-86 (7th Cir.), cert. denied, --- U.S. ----, 104 S. Ct. 486, 78 S. Ct. 682 (1983), the defendants, who conspired to burn their restaurant and defraud the insurance company, argued that the conspiracy ended as soon as the fire was set. The court rejected that argument saying, "[T]he conspiracy continues until defendants obtain the insurance money or abandon their quest." Id. at 986. The Seventh Circuit noted that the recovery of the insurance proceeds was the primary goal of the conspiracy and that the goal of obtaining money from the insurance company, which required that the true nature of the fire remain concealed, distinguished the case from Grunewald. See United States v. Burton, 724 F.2d 1283 (7th Cir.1984).

Although the answer to the question whether attempts to conceal a conspiracy are in furtherance of the ongoing conspiracy depends upon the facts of each case, the District Court did not err in admitting the taped conversations. In conspiracies where a main objective has not been attained or abandoned and concealment is essential to success of that objective, attempts to conceal the conspiracy are made in furtherance of the conspiracy.

The original panel also found that the taped conversations were inadmissible because they "lack any indicia of reliability." 752 F.2d at 231. The panel stated: "We find entirely unreliable any statements made by the informant." Id. The reliability of the tapes does not, however, depend upon the informant and appellant has not objected to the tapes on the ground that they do not accurately reflect the conversation that occurred.4 Appellant does not challenge the sufficiency of the evidence that a conspiracy existed, that he was a member of the conspiracy, or that there was evidence that Charles was a member of the conspiracy. The panel's conclusion that Charles' statements regarding appellant Clifford's involvement are unreliable appears to be based upon a general dissatisfaction with the coconspirator exception. The panel also stated:

We also find unreliable statements elicited from Charles regarding Clifford's involvement in the conspiracy. Although one is unlikely to adopt incriminating statements concerning oneself, there is no reason to believe that one will necessarily speak out to exculpate another.... One can imagine a case in which a person deliberately makes incriminating but untrue statements about another to a known government informant.

Id. There is nothing in this case to indicate that the statements are any less reliable than other coconspirator statements. Finally, since both Johnny and Charles testified at trial, Clifford could have challenged the reliability of the conversations on cross-examination. Any question of reliability was for the jury to determine. Hoffa v. United States, 385 U.S. 293, 311, 87 S. Ct. 408, 418, 17 L. Ed. 2d 374 (1966). The District Court properly admitted the taped recorded conversations into evidence against Clifford under Fed.R.Evid. 801(d)(2)(E).

Appellant raises several other issues on appeal. For the reasons stated in the original panel opinion, we find those contentions to be without merit and adopt sections I, II, III, and IV of its opinion.

Appellant's convictions are AFFIRMED.

BOYCE F. MARTIN, Jr., Circuit Judge, dissenting, joined by KEITH and NATHANIEL R. JONES, Circuit Judges.

For the reasons well stated by Judge Swygert in his opinion in the original disposition of this case, see United States v. Howard, 752 F.2d 220, 228-31 (6th Cir.1985), I dissent.

I do not disagree with Judge Kennedy's statement of the legal principles concerning whether a statement is made "in furtherance of" a conspiracy, and I do not understand those principles to deviate from those articulated by Judge Swygert. The problem in this case is one of the proper application of those principles to the facts at hand. That is where I part company with the majority.

The majority does not examine the conversations in any detail in order to determine whether either or both of them should have been admitted against Clifford. Instead, the majority lays out the applicable legal principles and then makes the sweeping, unsupported assertion that, "These conversations, designed to keep the insurance company or the Kentucky State Police from uncovering the arson until the money was paid, were at least partly calculated to further the aim of securing the insurance proceeds." That assertion does not survive analysis, particularly with respect to the May 12 conversation, which was the more damaging of the two conversations.

I have only one detail to add to Judge Swygert's fine analysis of the conversations. Unlike the May 9 conversation, in which Charles speaks of him and Johnny burning "insurance houses" in the past but does not implicate Clifford in those burnings,1 the May 12 conversation does implicate Clifford. The latter conversation, however, does not contain any statements made in furtherance of the conspiracy. In the May 9 conversation Charles admonishes Johnny not to become involved in future burnings so they can avoid detection and (by implication) obtain the proceeds from the past burnings. The May 12 conversation does not contain any such admonition. Johnny merely recalls that Charles previously told him not to become involved in future burnings, and Charles merely expresses his fear that their past crimes will be detected. The May 12 conversation certainly relates to the conspiracy, but it was not made in furtherance of the conspiracy. No plans were made, no duties were delegated, no instructions were given. The conversation did nothing to advance the remaining goal of obtaining the insurance proceeds.

The May 9 conversation did not implicate Clifford and thus was not made in furtherance of a conspiracy in which he was a member (expressed differently, the conversation was not relevant with respect to the case against Clifford), and the May 12 conversation was not made in furtherance of any conspiracy. I feel the tape recordings were not properly admissible against Clifford and his conviction should be reversed.