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                     Appeal from the United States District Court
                   for the Eastern District of Kentucky at Lexington.
                 No. 05-00023—Jennifer B. Coffman, District Judge.
                                            Argued: April 4, 2007
                                    Decided and Filed: July 26, 2007
              Before: SILER and SUTTON, Circuit Judges; JORDAN, District Judge.*
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                                                  COUNSEL
ARGUED: Jerry W. Gilbert, COY, GILBERT & GILBERT, Richmond, Kentucky, for Appellant.
John Patrick Grant, ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY, Lexington, Kentucky, for
Appellee. ON BRIEF: Jerry W. Gilbert, COY, GILBERT & GILBERT, Richmond, Kentucky, for
Appellant. Charles P. Wisdom, Jr., ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY, Lexington,
Kentucky, for Appellee.
         SUTTON, J., delivered the opinion of the court, in which JORDAN, D. J., joined. SILER,
J. (p. 10), delivered a separate dissenting opinion.
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                                                OPINION
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        SUTTON, Circuit Judge. Avery Poynter, 36 years old, pleaded guilty to traveling in
interstate commerce for the purpose of engaging in illicit sexual conduct with two minors. After
calculating a guidelines range of 188–235 months and considering the § 3553(a) factors, the district
court imposed a 720-month sentence (the statutory maximum) because Poynter was a repeat child
sex offender. Unable to conclude that this variance resulted from a reasonable application of § 3553,
we reverse.

        *
           The Honorable R. Leon Jordan, Senior United States District Judge for the Eastern District of Tennessee,
sitting by designation.


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                                                 I.
       On May 4, 1989, Avery Poynter pleaded guilty in Kentucky state court to committing four
counts of sodomy in the second degree with an eleven-year-old male. The court sentenced Poynter
to a 20-year term of imprisonment, but the State released him on parole four years later after he
completed Kentucky’s sex offender treatment program in prison.
        In October 2003, Poynter traveled from Kentucky to Tennessee to have sex with a fourteen-
year-old male. In December, he met the same minor in Indiana and, after the two traveled to
Kentucky, they again had a sexual encounter. In April 2004, Poynter traveled to Indiana with
another fourteen-year-old male for another sexual foray. The next month, the two traveled to Florida
for the same purpose.
        After the police caught Poynter, he pleaded guilty to four counts of traveling in interstate
commerce for the purpose of engaging in illicit sexual conduct with a minor. 18 U.S.C. § 2423(b).
Accounting for adjustments based on his supervisory control over the victims, U.S.S.G.
§ 2A3.2(b)(2)(B), and on his multiple counts of conviction, 

the district court set
Poynter’s initial offense level at 28 and his criminal history category at III, creating a guidelines
range of 97–121 months. Because Poynter was convicted of a sex crime and had previously
“sustain[ed] at least one sex offense conviction,” the district court applied the mandatory minimums
of the “Repeat and Dangerous Sex Offender Against Minors” sentencing guideline. U.S.S.G.
§ 4B1.5(a). The district court therefore increased Poynter’s final offense level to 32 (including a
two-level adjustment for acceptance of responsibility), see 

and increased
his criminal history to category V, see 

All of these adjustments considered,
Poynter was left with a guidelines range of 188–235 months.
        At the sentencing hearing on August 18, 2005, the district court heard testimony from
Poynter’s victims and from the mother of the second victim. The district court acknowledged
receiving a letter from Poynter’s parents, and Poynter spoke on his own behalf. Poynter
“apologize[d] to [his] victims, as well as [his] family”; he recognized that “this has been a problem
for [him] for many years” and that he had already gone “back into counseling with the counselors”;
he welcomed “anything that [the] Federal [Government] has to offer”; and he said that he did not
“intend” to “ever hav[e] another victim.” JA 41–42.
         In sentencing Poynter, the district court acknowledged the guidelines range of 188–235
months and the statutory maximum of 720 months. See 18 U.S.C. §§ 2423(b), 2426(a). The court
recognized that it must “impose a sentence . . . that is sufficient but not greater than necessary to
comply with the purposes” of 18 U.S.C. § 3353(a)(2). JA 46. It then analyzed the § 3553(a) factors
in exercising its independent judgment about what an appropriate sentence would be. Reflecting
on the “seriousness of the offense,” see § 3553(a)(2)(A), the court said that “[t]he protection of
children in our society deserves the highest priority,” JA 46, and observed that Poynter “used
alcohol and other drugs to seduce these victims” and that he had “victimized multiple children,” JA
49; see § 3553(a)(1). Reflecting on the need to impose a “just punishment” and “to promote respect
for the law,” see § 3553(a)(2)(A), the court focused on Poynter’s criminal history: “You did do it
once before. . . . You did not learn your lesson. And so I think that the just punishment component
of this has been ratcheted upwards.” JA 46; see § 3553(a)(1). Consistent with the need to “protect
the public from further crimes,” see § 3553(a)(2)(C), the district court stated that “[t]he only way
I can be sure that [children] are protected is for [Poynter] to be in custody.” JA 47.
        As for rehabilitation, see § 3553(a)(2)(D), the court said that Poynter should participate in
the federal sex offender treatment program but doubted that Poynter would ever recover because sex
crimes are “highly recidivistic.” JA 49. The court also noted that the “statutory maximum”
protected against “unwarranted sentencing disparities,” JA 47; see § 3553(a)(6), and that “[t]here
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is no restitution that [Poynter] can pay to these victims that can make them whole,” JA 47; see
§ 3553(a)(7).
        In choosing the statutory maximum (720 months or 60 years), the court emphasized the need
for “adequate deterrence,” see § 3553(a)(2)(B), explaining that sex crimes are “highly recidivistic,”
that Poynter “forgot the lessons [he] learned in counseling,” that “[o]ne slip is one too many” and
that the harm here is so great that it “outweighs in the Court’s judgment [Poynter’s] ten-year
compliance.” JA 48. The court added that it was “aware of the guideline range top—capping out
at 235 months,” see § 3553(a)(4)—but that it had “chosen the statutory maximum because [it]
believe[d] that Mr. Poynter is unsafe to children” as a repeat offender. JA 52. “It is my intention,”
the court concluded, “that he either not ever be released from prison or be released from prison at
such an age that it would be highly unlikely that he will ever commit this offense again. If he can’t
control himself, I think the Court needs to impose a sentence that will control him.” JA 52–53. The
court also imposed a lifetime term of supervised release.
                                                 II.
        Since United States v. Booker, 

(2005), we have distinguished between
procedural and substantive reasonableness. See United States v. Webb, 

, 383 (6th Cir.
2005). No one questions the district court’s adherence to the procedural requirements of post-
Booker review: It properly calculated the guidelines range, recognized that those guidelines were
advisory and thoroughly considered the factors listed in § 3553(a). See United States v. Davis, 

, 495 (6th Cir. 2006). The court also stated “the specific reason for the imposition of a
sentence” outside the guidelines range, 18 U.S.C. § 3553(c)(2)—“that [Poynter] either not ever be
released from prison or be released from prison at such an age that it would be highly unlikely that
he will ever commit this offense again.” JA 52.
        The substantive reasonableness of this sentence is another matter—a point that Poynter not
only contests but contests with some force. In asking whether a sentence reasonably comports with
the substantive demands of § 3553, we face a tug of war between two competing sets of
considerations. On one side, we face several limitations in second-guessing the district court’s
decision. Unlike the trial court, we did not see the defendant, the victims or family members testify
at the sentencing hearing. And unlike the trial court, most appellate judges have little experience
sentencing individuals. While trial judges sentence individuals face to face for a living, we review
transcripts for a living. No one sentences transcripts. All of this suggests that we should
acknowledge the trial courts’ comparative advantages—its ring-side perspective on the sentencing
hearing and its experience over time in sentencing other individuals—and give considerable
deference to their sentencing decisions. See Rita v. United States, 

, 2469 (2007)
(“The sentencing judge has access to, and greater familiarity with, the individual case and the
individual defendant before him than the Commission or the appeals court.”); Koon v. United States,

, 98 (1996) (“District courts have an institutional advantage over appellate courts in
making [sentencing] determinations, especially as they see so many more Guidelines cases than
appellate courts do.”).
        On the other side, one of the principal functions of the Sentencing Reform Act of 1984 was
to eliminate “unwarranted sentenc[ing] disparities among defendants with similar records who have
been found guilty of similar conduct.” 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a)(6). District court judges cannot correct
that problem within their circuit or even within their own court (so long as two or more judges sit
there), much less nationwide, because “different judges (and others) can differ as to how best to
reconcile the disparate ends of punishment.” 

. Reasonableness review thus
permits “appellate courts to minimize sentencing disparities between and among district courts (and
between and among courts of appeals),” 

, or, to use the words of Booker, to
“iron out sentencing differences” among trial judges, 

; see also United States
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v. Sriram, 

, 962 (7th Cir. 2007) (“[Booker] did not authorize sentencing judges to pick
any sentence within the applicable statutory sentencing range that strikes their fancy.”).
        In trying to account for these competing considerations and in trying to identify principled
reasons for upholding some sentences but not others, our circuit has applied a proportionality
principle based on at least two of the § 3553(a) factors—the guidelines range, § 3553(a)(4), and the
need to avoid unwarranted sentencing disparities, § 3553(a)(6). “[T]he farther the judge’s sentence
departs from the guidelines sentence,” we have said, “the more compelling the justification based
on factors in section 3553(a) must be.” 

(internal quotation marks omitted).
Many other circuits have done the same or something nearly the same. See United States v. Crisp,

, 1291 (11th Cir. 2006); United States v. Cage, 

, 594 (10th Cir. 2006);
United States v. Smith, 

, 4 (1st Cir. 2006); United States v. Duhon, 

, 715 (5th
Cir. 2006); United States v. Lazenby, 

, 932 (8th Cir. 2006); United States v. Moreland,

, 434 (4th Cir. 2006); United States v. Dean, 

, 729 (7th Cir. 2005); cf.
United States v. King, 

, 195 (3d Cir. 2006); United States v. Simpson, 

,
1187 n.10 (D.C. Cir. 2005).
        We have applied this principle in several cases over the last year—both to downward and
upward variances. Compare, e.g., United States v. Kathman, No. 06-5669, __ F.3d ___, 

, at *5–6 (6th Cir. June 20, 2007) (upholding 61% downward variance based on assessment
that defendant was “a law abiding fine young man” who merely used “poor judgment” one evening
and was less culpable than similar defendants) (internal quotation marks omitted); United States v.
Cherry, 

, 370–72 (6th Cir. 2007) (upholding 43% downward variance because
defendant had a “low risk for reoffending,” had taken “extensive” efforts to rehabilitate himself and
was not “a run-of-the-mill offender”); United States v. Husein, 

, 333 (6th Cir. 2007)
(upholding 99.91% downward variance as reasonable in light of defendant’s “extraordinary family
circumstances”); United States v. Wells, 

, 644 (6th Cir. 2007) (upholding 14% upward
variance based on defendant’s “egregious actions” and “lengthy history of escalating violent
behavior”); United States v. Collington, 

, 809–10 (6th Cir. 2006) (upholding 36%
downward variance as reasonable in light of defendant’s peculiar criminal history and unique family
circumstances); United States v. Fuson, 215 F. App’x 468, 475 (6th Cir. Feb. 8, 2007) (upholding
sentence of probation rather than two years’ imprisonment because felon-in-possession charge arose
from incidental possession of an antique handgun); United States v. Williams, 214 F. App’x 552, 556
(6th Cir. Jan. 23, 2007) (upholding 177% upward variance because sentencing range
underrepresented defendant’s “continuing propensity for violence”), with United States v. Borho,

, 916 (6th Cir. 2007) (vacating 66% downward variance because “the extreme nature
of the deviation, without a correspondingly compelling justification, resulted in a substantively
unreasonable sentence”) (emphasis omitted); United States v. Funk, 

, 431 (6th Cir.
2007) (vacating 43% downward variance when district court unduly discounted defendant’s criminal
history); 

–500 (vacating 99.89% downward variance because “most extreme
variance” “leav[es] no room to make reasoned distinctions” between defendant and other “more
worthy defendants”).
         Gauged by this proportionality principle and by our application of it in these cases, this 60-
year sentence, a 206% upward variance from the top of the guidelines range, cannot be sustained.
The primary ground for the variance—that the court wanted to prevent Poynter from ever
committing this crime again—does not distinguish Poynter from other repeat sex offenders. True
enough: “Poynter is unsafe to children,” JA 52; “[o]ne slip is one too many,” JA 48; his crime is
“highly recidivistic,” id.; and “[i]f [Poynter] can’t control himself, . . . the Court needs to impose a
sentence that will control him,” JA 52–53. But, at this level of generality, the same could be said
of all repeat sex offenders.
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        No less importantly, the Sentencing Commission promulgated the “Repeat and Dangerous
Sex Offender Against Minors” guideline precisely to address the problem of recidivist sex offenders.
Designed to deal with individuals who previously have sustained “at least one sex offense
conviction,” U.S.S.G. § 4B1.5(a), and who have exhibited a “pattern of activity involving prohibited
sexual conduct,” 

the guideline recommends “lengthy incarceration for offenders who
commit sex offenses against minors and who present a continuing danger to the public.” 

cmt. background. The guideline protects the public from this “continuing danger” by calling for a
“lengthy incarceration” for these individuals—one that significantly bumps up the sentencing range
for any sex offender who has committed at least one sex offense before.
        In view of his offense and of this guideline, Poynter faced the following enhancements. The
underlying crime, together with other adjustments for criminal history, acceptance of responsibility
and the like, called for an advisory sentencing range of 97–121 months. The “Repeat and Dangerous
Sex Offender Against Minors” guideline increased that range to 188–235 months. And the district
court sentenced Poynter to 720 months. What started as a top-end range of roughly 10 years became
a top-end range of roughly 20 years and ended as a 60-year sentence—all because he had been
convicted once before as a sex offender and all of this even though the increase in the advisory range
from roughly 10 to 20 years was meant to account for the problem of recidivism. Absent some
explanation for why Poynter’s risk of recidivism differs from that of other repeat sex offenders, we
are hard-pressed to understand why Poynter, but apparently not other repeat offenders, needs what
amounts to a life sentence—Poynter will be 96 when (or if) he is released from prison.
        The other aspects of Poynter’s crimes mentioned by the district court—his multiple counts
of conviction, his relationship of trust with the victims, the fact that prior treatment did not prevent
these crimes—may well justify an upward variance (even a significant upward variance) but they
do not support a 60-year sentence. In explaining why it sentenced Poynter at the top of the statutory
range, the district court did not rely on these factors, and it did not explain why a sentence of 60
years was “no greater than necessary” despite the Sentencing Commission’s considered judgment
to the contrary—a judgment the government does not contend is generally “unsound” as to repeat
offenders, cf. 

.
         By relying on a problem common to all repeat sex offenders (recidivism) in increasing
Poynter’s sentence and by failing to offer meaningful distinctions between the risk that Poynter
posed to the public and the risk that other sex offenders posed to the public, the district court left us
little room to distinguish between Poynter and other sex offenders. See 

(affirming substantial variance and noting that “more worthy defendants than Husein are difficult
to imagine, short of those found to be not guilty”) (internal quotation marks omitted); accord 

; United States v. Goldberg, __ F.3d ___, No. 07-1393, 

, at *5 (7th
Cir. June 27, 2007); United States v. Moreland, 

, 437 (4th Cir. 2006); United States v.
Haack, 

, 1005–06 (8th Cir. 2005). As utterly depraved as this crime is and as forever
scarring as it must be to be victimized by it, not all repeat sex offenders deserve what amounts to
a life sentence; otherwise, Congress would not have set a statutory range of 0–60 years. See 18
U.S.C. §§ 2423(b), 2426(a). While there is no yardstick perfectly calibrated to measure one crime
and one criminal from the next crime and the next criminal, there are certainly measurable
differences between Poynter’s situation and the situation of offenders who might warrant the
statutory maximum or something approaching it. Consider those who, unlike Poynter, flee the
authorities and seek to obstruct their own conviction; those who do not accept responsibility for their
actions; those who employ violence or use weapons to commit the offense; and those who stand
convicted of a long list of prior sex offenses with children rather than just one prior conviction. Cf.
United States v. Bridgewater, 

, 440–42 (6th Cir. 2007) (affirming 10-year, statutory-
maximum sentence for possessing child pornography in part because defendant was more culpable
and dangerous than the average offender: the defendant took “photographs of [himself] molesting
young girls who were in [his] care” while running a home for abused and neglected children; he
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successfully concealed these offenses and his criminal past from others “despite [his] continued
proximity to youth in church programs”; and his own son “condemned” him and “questioned his
remorse and sincerity” in a letter to the court).
        Neither can we agree with the district court that its invocation of the 60-year statutory
maximum by itself answers § 3553(a)’s concern about “avoid[ing] unwarranted sentence
disparities.” 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a)(6); see JA 47 (“I think that the statutory maximum . . . take[s] care
of [avoiding unwarranted sentence disparities].”). While the statutory maximum eliminates any risk
of disparity caused by sentences above 60 years, that maximum does little to diminish disparities
for individuals who receive (or should receive) sentences below what amounts to a life sentence for
most individuals convicted of this crime. If Poynter’s sentence represents a reasonable application
of § 3553(a), it is difficult to understand why any sentence between 188 and 720 months, a nearly
45-year span, would not be reasonable as well. But giving district courts such a sweeping range of
discretion does not seem to have been the goal of Booker, much less the continuing goal of the
Sentencing Commission. See 

(“Congress’ basic goal in passing the
Sentencing Act was to move the sentencing system in the direction of increased uniformity.”); 28
U.S.C. § 991(b)(1)(B) (One purpose of the Commission is to “avoid[] unwarranted sentencing
disparities among defendants with similar records who have been found guilty of similar criminal
conduct.”); 

(instructing the Commission that the guidelines should particularly attempt
to “reduc[e] unwarranted sentence disparities”); see also 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a)(6).
        While Booker empowered district courts, not appellate courts and not the Sentencing
Commission, the only way to “avoid unwarranted sentence disparities” is for appellate courts to
preserve reasoned distinctions among offenders. In attempting to satisfy the worthy goal of “be[ing]
sure that [children] are protected” from sex offenses, we thus do not have available the solution
adopted by the district court of simply placing the offender in permanent custody, JA 47, a solution
that sweeps all repeat sex offenders within its net. Not only does the 0–60 year range suggest that
Congress thought that courts should draw distinctions among sex offenders, but incarceration also
is not the sole method Congress prescribed for protecting the public in this area. Life-time
supervised release—authorized by Congress, 18 U.S.C. § 3583(k), recommended by the Sentencing
Commission, U.S.S.G. § 5D1.2(b), and adopted by the district court, see JA 50—remains an option.
Supervised release permits the district court to prohibit Poynter from “associating unnecessarily
with” children, 18 U.S.C. § 3563(b)(6), from volunteering as a youth leader, from becoming a
teacher or engaging in any other profession that might place him in a position of trust with children,

and from residing near any school, church or day-care center, 

among other things. See 

        All of these considerations are for the district court to ponder in the first instance. It is not
for us to impose a sentence. It is for us only to say that the justifications offered for this sentence
do not support it and do not meaningfully distinguish Poynter from other repeat sex offenders. See

.
         That leaves one issue: Does the Supreme Court’s recent decision in Rita v. United States
require us to abandon the proportionality principle that we have applied in this case? The answer
would seem to be “no,” on the one hand, because Rita concerned the presumption of reasonableness
for within-guidelines sentences, not the proportionality principle, and the Court will consider the
validity of proportionality review during its next Term. See United States v. Gall, No. 06-7949.
Yet, at the same time, the Court said two things in upholding the presumption of reasonableness that
are in some tension with proportionality review: (1) there is no “presumption of unreasonableness”
for outside-guidelines sentences, 

; and (2) the legitimacy of an appellate
presumption of reasonableness for within-guidelines sentences turns in part on the “double
determination” that “both the sentencing judge and the Sentencing Commission . . . reached the
same conclusion as to the proper sentence in the particular case,” 

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        If, as Rita says, there is no presumption of unreasonableness for outside-guidelines sentences,
that suggests a district court has no less discretion to sentence within the guidelines than to sentence
outside of them. And if that is so, why should a sentencing court have any greater duty to justify
a within-guidelines sentence than an outside-guidelines sentence, much less to strengthen the
explanation for its sentence the further the sentence varies from the guidelines’ recommendation?
Likewise, if an appellate presumption of reasonableness for within-guidelines sentences turns at
least in part on the alignment of the views of the Sentencing Commission with the views of the
sentencing court, why should appellate courts give force to the Commission’s recommendations
through proportionality review when no such “double determination” exists, when in other words
the sentencing judge chose not to follow the Commission’s advice?
         These are good questions, but they do not compel us to abandon the proportionality principle.
First, that is not all Rita said, and the rest of its reasoning remains consistent with permitting courts
to engage in some form of proportionality review. In upholding a presumption of reasonableness
for within-guidelines sentences, the Court also reasoned that Congress directed the Sentencing
Commission to develop sentencing recommendations based on the same § 3553(a) considerations
that district courts must consider in sentencing an individual. 

And it explained that
the guidelines’ recommendations are based on “empirical” data reflecting the aggregate experiences
of sentencing judges across the country and the input of diverse members of the “law enforcement
community.” 

If, in a given case, a sentencing court comes to a substantially (more on
that adverb later) different conclusion from the Commission about an appropriate sentencing range,
it seems quite reasonable to expect the court’s explanation to be commensurate with its variance
from the Commission’s empirically grounded and expert advice about how to apply the same
§ 3553(a) factors to a given crime and a given criminal.
         Second, it is not proportionality review, but a congressional directive, that initially requires
district courts to treat the explanations they give for outside-guidelines sentences differently from
the explanations they give for within-guidelines sentences. While Congress requires sentencing
courts to give a statement of reasons for all sentences, it requires courts to give “the specific reason
for the imposition of a sentence different from” the guidelines-recommended sentence, 18 U.S.C.
§ 3553(c)(2) (emphasis added). If it is appropriate to ask sentencing courts to give the “specific
reason” for variances, but not within-guidelines sentences, it is a modest additional step—and
certainly an extra step that will be useful to the Sentencing Commission in formulating future
recommendations—to ask that those “specific reason[s]” have more force the further the court varies
from the recommended range.
       Third, two of the § 3553(a) provisions that Congress requires district courts to
consider—(a)(4) and (a)(6)—suggest that courts must factor proportionality considerations into
outside-guidelines sentences. Subsection (a)(4) says a sentencing judge “shall consider” the
Sentencing Commission’s advice about how to sentence certain types of criminals for certain types
of crimes. When a court chooses not to follow that advice, the best way to indicate that the court
considered the guidelines range is not merely to say so—“I considered the guidelines range”—but
to show that is so by giving a “specific reason” that is commensurate with the degree of the variance.
A sentencing system that requires judges to consider the guidelines range and to give a “specific
reason” for deviating from that range, yet permits this reasoning to bear no relation to the size of the
variance, is not one destined to respect the Commission’s recommendations in the long run.
        Any lingering doubt about the point ought to be relieved by subsection (a)(6), which
commands courts to “avoid unwarranted sentence disparities among defendants with similar records
who have been found guilty of similar conduct.” What would an “unwarranted” sentencing disparity
be if not a sentence lacking sufficient justification for its disparity from the sentences of other
similarly situated defendants? How else can a district court judge, or for that matter an appellate
judge, tell when such disparities are occurring without consulting the guidelines range? And how
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else can judges avoid such disparities in the first instance, or correct them on review, without
demanding that substantial variances be supported by substantial reasons? There are several
questions here, and the practical answer to all of them is to allow courts to factor rough
proportionality into the equation.
        Fourth, proportionality considerations do not forsake the other § 3553(a) factors—most
notably, the nature of the offense and of the defendant, 

and “the need for the
sentence,” 

These are precisely the factors that district courts will invoke
in giving a “specific reason” for a variance. And in asking that this reasoning be particularly
forceful when the district court imposes a particularly large variance, the proportionality principle
merely respects the fact that Congress directed the Commission to consider these same factors in
recommending the sentencing ranges it did. To permit district courts to rely on these factors to vary
sentences substantially without asking them to give commensurate explanations is not to respect
subsections (a)(1) and (a)(2) but to exalt them—and in the process to make the avoidance of
unwarranted sentencing disparities all but impossible.
         Fifth, this principle not only respects all of the § 3553(a) factors, but it also in the end is a
modest principle, one that is unlikely to make a difference in most cases. It is unlikely to affect the
review of sentences that vary slightly or even moderately from the Commission’s recommendations.
By its terms, a proportionality principle would ask little in the way of explanation for a sentence that
varies little from the guidelines. And the mandate of “avoid[ing] unwarranted sentence disparities,”
§ 3553(a)(6), will have little weight with modest or even moderate variances. The value of the
principle, and the only time it would seem to have an effect on the validity of a sentence, is when
the trial court varies substantially from the guidelines.
       Sixth, with respect to substantial variances, the proportionality principle would seem to be
an indispensable tool of appellate review—if for no other reason than that there is no other
benchmark to measure the reasonableness of a sentence at the high or low ends of the sentencing
range authorized by Congress. Where else would an appellate court start in gauging the
reasonableness of such a sentence? We know that the sentencing court must start with the probation
department’s presentence report as to an appropriate guidelines’ sentencing range, and the court
must subject that report to the adversarial process. See 

. We know that the
sentencing court may grant downward or upward departures to individuals deserving of them. See
U.S.S.G. § 5K2.0(a); 

–62. And we know that, once the sentencing court
accounts for all of the § 3553(a) factors and comes to a reasoned judgment about their application
to a given individual, we must give the benefit of the doubt to the district court’s
judgment—conducting reasonableness review that comes to nothing more than abuse-of-discretion
review. 

        But reasonableness review still amounts to review, and without rough proportionality as an
available guide it is difficult to imagine how to conduct it in the setting of extreme variances. Take
our task in this case. Congress set a 0–60 year sentencing range for this offense, and the district
court gave Poynter a 60-year sentence. Without proportionality review, without the option of
measuring the force of the district court’s explanations for exceeding the roughly 20-year guidelines-
recommended sentence against the length of that variance, what principle would guide us? The
other § 3553(a) considerations, all important to be sure, tell us nothing by themselves about the types
of individuals that should be sentenced at the extreme ends of the congressional sentencing range.
They are qualitative guides, and without the quantitative recommendations of the Sentencing
Commission, appellate courts would have no principled way to distinguish one appealed sentence
from another. Neither district courts nor courts of appeals can use their own experiences in
determining appropriate sentences for, say, recidivist sex offenders because that would never
generate nationwide consistency. The Supreme Court perhaps could gather nationwide information
about sentencing ranges for different crimes, but that prospect, workable or not, seems unlikely to
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happen any time soon. As a practical matter, the most meaningful way for appellate courts to “iron
out sentencing differences,” 

, and to “avoid excessive sentencing disparities
while maintaining flexibility to individualize sentences where necessary,” 

is to permit
them to account for the strength of the sentencing court’s explanation in relation to the size of its
deviation from the guidelines.
        By contrast, it is difficult to see any great risk of harm arising from applying the
proportionality principle to extreme variances. Again, take this case. The key reasonableness-
review question is why the same factors underlying the “Repeat and Dangerous Sex Offender
Against Minors” sentencing guideline, U.S.S.G. § 4B1.5(a), which increased Poynter’s guidelines
range from 97–121 months to 188–235 months, do not account for the same concerns that the district
court expressed in raising his sentence to 720 months. Everything the court said in imposing a 720-
month sentence could have been said about an individual sentenced within the 188–235 month
range. What is missing, in short, is additional reasoning, not additional factfinding. If an appellate
court may not ask a district court to explain why the most extreme variance available is
justified—justified in rough relation to the extent of the variance—it is difficult to see why appellate
courts would not be required to uphold all such variances. And if one takes the parsimony principle
seriously, what better way is there to ensure that a sentence is “sufficient” (in the context of a
proposed substantial downward variance) and “no greater than necessary” (in the context of a
proposed substantial upward variance) than to insist that the district courts explain such variances
from the Sentencing Commission’s recommendations—the only empirical guide to whether
sentences are “sufficient” and “no greater than necessary”?
                                                  III.
        For these reasons, we vacate the sentence imposed below and remand the case to the district
court for resentencing.
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                                        ________________
                                            DISSENT
                                        ________________
        SILER, Circuit Judge, dissenting. I respectfully dissent, not because I think that my
colleagues do not know the law, but because this is such a discretionary matter that I believe when
the district court correctly calculates the Guidelines range and then considers the § 3553(a) factors,
the sentence should be upheld, unless the court adds a factor which should not have been considered
under § 3553(a) or unless the circumstances of the crime or the offender were such that no variance
from the Guidelines could be justified.
         Obviously, the decision in United States v. Davis, 

(6th Cir. 2006), is the law
of this circuit. From that decision, we get the quotation which the majority uses in this case: “‘[T]he
farther the judge’s sentence departs from the guidelines sentence . . . the more compelling the
justification based on factors in Section 3553(a)’ must be.” 

(quoting United States v.
Dean 

, 729 (7th Cir. 2005)). In Davis, we found that a downward variance of 99.89%
was unreasonable under the circumstances. The primary circumstances used by the court in the
variance in Davis were the long time interval between his crimes and his sentence and the
defendant’s advanced age, 70 years old.
         Compared to the decision in Davis, we upheld a downward variance of 99.91% as reasonable
in light of extraordinary family circumstances in United States v. Husein, 

, 333 (6th Cir.
2007). There we distinguished Davis by discussing the fact that the court should consider the
“worthiness” of each individual defendant. 

Thus, Husein was a worthy defendant who
had no prior criminal history, was very remorseful, and had a difficult family situation at home.
        As the majority opinion recites, this case represents a 206% upward variance from the top
of the Guidelines range. However, to adopt the reasoning in Husein, Poynter here was a repeat sex
offender who is about as unworthy as any defendant can be. The district court was highly offended
by the fact that Poynter had previously been involved in sexual abuse with minors, that he gave
alcohol and other drugs to the children, and that he did not learn anything from his counseling after
the first offense. The district court saw the families of the victims and was no doubt distressed
because Poynter had continued in his prior conduct of sexually abusing juveniles. At the time of
these present offenses, he was on parole from his previous offenses of sodomy with a minor.
Although the upward variance in this case is double what the downward variance was in Husein,
there is no set figure beyond which a sentencing court may vary, and Poynter here is as unworthy
as Husein was worthy of a downward variance.
        In United States v. Bridgewater, 

(6th Cir. 2007), we found that the maximum
sentence of 120 months for the defendant under a charge of possession of child pornography was
not substantively unreasonable. In Bridgewater, the district court considered the horrible nature of
the crime and emphasized the destructive effect the child pornography had on the lives of children.
The court opined that “it would not take a chance on him victimizing anybody else.” 

Although that decision does not indicate what the sentencing range was, still it shows that the court
could render a maximum statutory sentence to protect children. Therefore, I would find that in this
case, the district court did not abuse its discretion in rendering the sentence against Poynter. Thus,
I would affirm.