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                        UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
                                         FOR THE SIXTH CIRCUIT
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                     Appeal from the United States District Court
                for the Western District of Michigan at Grand Rapids.
                  No. 02-00229—Robert H. Cleland, District Judge.
                                             Argued: July 18, 2007
                                    Decided and Filed: August 10, 2007
             Before: MOORE and GILMAN, Circuit Judges; FORESTER, District Judge.*
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                                                    COUNSEL
ARGUED: Gary W. Crim, Dayton, Ohio, for Appellant. Julie Ann Woods, ASSISTANT UNITED
STATES ATTORNEY, Grand Rapids, Michigan, for Appellee. ON BRIEF: Gary W. Crim,
Dayton, Ohio, for Appellant. Julie Ann Woods, Andrew Byerly Birge, ASSISTANT UNITED
STATES ATTORNEY, Grand Rapids, Michigan, for Appellee.
        MOORE, J., delivered the opinion of the court, in which GILMAN, J., joined. FORESTER,
D. J. (pp. 6-7), delivered a separate dissenting opinion.
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                                                  OPINION
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        KAREN NELSON MOORE, Circuit Judge. Defendant-Appellant Kenneth Roy Thomas
(“Thomas”) was convicted by a jury on one count of bank robbery. After a prior appeal and remand
for resentencing, Thomas now appeals his sentence of 240 months in prison, five years of supervised
release, a $4,500 fine, and ten dollars in restitution. Thomas argues that his sentence is unreasonable
because the district court did not consider adequately the factors set forth in 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a).
Because the record does not make clear the district court’s consideration of the relevant § 3553(a)


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          The Honorable Karl S. Forester, United States District Judge for the Eastern District of Kentucky, sitting by
designation.


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No. 06-1290              United States v. Thomas                                                            Page 2


factors and its reasoning for imposing the sentence that it did, we VACATE Thomas’s sentence and
REMAND the case for resentencing.
                                             I. BACKGROUND
        We have previously summarized the underlying facts in this case:
                On September 23, 2002, a man entered a Bank One branch in Grand Rapids,
        Michigan, approached a teller window, and demanded “your hundreds, your fifties,”
        and a pack of tens. Tolanda Staten, the teller, testified that the robber ordered her to
        either “[g]o talk to them,” or “[d]on’t talk to them,” but she was uncertain exactly
        what he said. Staten was so distraught she forgot bank procedures and her manager’s
        name, but she did give the robber a pack of tens with a dye pack in it. After the
        robber fled, she shouted to the bank manager that she had been robbed and called the
        police to give them a description of the robber.
United States v. Thomas, 116 F. App’x 727, 728-29 (6th Cir. 2004) (unpublished opinion). The
robber was soon apprehended and identified as Kenneth Roy Thomas. A federal jury found Thomas
guilty of one count of bank robbery, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 2113(a). Then-District Judge David
W. McKeague sentenced Thomas to the statutory maximum of 240           months in prison, within the
then-mandatory Guidelines range of 210 to 262 months in prison.1
        We affirmed Thomas’s conviction on appeal. Thomas, 116 F. App’x 727. Although Thomas
did not raise any sentencing issues on appeal, he filed a petition for writ of certiorari in the Supreme
Court, and on January 24, 2005, the Supreme Court granted Thomas’s petition, vacated the
judgment, and remanded the case back to us for further consideration in light of United States v.
Booker, 

(2005). Thomas v. United States, 

(2005). On April 1, 2005,
we remanded the case to the district court for resentencing in light of Booker. United States v.
Thomas, No. 03-1691 (6th Cir. Apr. 1, 2005) (unpublished order).
         Judge McKeague meanwhile had become a judge on our court. On remand, Thomas’s case
was reassigned to District Judge Robert H. Cleland for resentencing.2 On November 14, 2005,
Thomas filed a sentencing memorandum discussing the relevant § 3553(a) factors. Among other
things, Thomas’s memorandum discussed the relatively nonviolent nature of Thomas’s crime;
argued that a sentence below the applicable Guidelines range would adequately reflect the
seriousness of the offense, provide just punishment, and avoid unwarranted sentencing disparities,
as defendants convicted of similar crimes generally received far shorter sentences; argued that a
sentence below the applicable Guidelines range would protect the public from any further crimes
by Thomas, given his age; and noted Thomas’s rehabilitative efforts. On February 2, 2006, the
district court held Thomas’s resentencing hearing. The district court noted that it “ha[d] received
[Thomas’s sentencing memorandum], read it and understand its presentations.” Joint Appendix
(“J.A.”) at 34 (2/2/06 Hr’g at 7). After addressing arguments relating to Thomas’s representation
and the geographic location of resentencing, the district court calculated the applicable Guidelines
range to be 210 to 262 months in prison, noted the statutory maximum of 240 months in prison, and
stated:


        1
           Because the statutory maximum of 240 months in prison was less than the upper limit of the applicable
Guidelines range, the district court had the discretion to sentence Thomas only within the range of 210 to 240 months
in prison. See UNITED STATES SENTENCING GUIDELINE § 5G1.1(c)(1).
        2
           Although Judge Cleland is a United States District Judge for the Eastern District of Michigan, Thomas’s
resentencing was assigned to him as a visiting judge for the Western District of Michigan.
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                It is quite clear to me that Judge McKeague had every ability to impose a
       sentence less than 240 months. He recognized a range certainly of 210 to 240
       months, and it is not entirely clear why, except for in the exercise of the utmost
       restraint and caution, a case such as this would be remanded for reconsideration and
       resentencing. Upon full reconsideration, it is my view that a sentence of 240 months
       is appropriate. It is a sentencing fact that replicates the middle of the guideline range
       correctly calculated here. It happens to coincide with the statutory maximum, but
       that is, as far as I am concerned, essentially happenstance. I believe that a sentence
       of 240 months, given the defendant’s background and behavior in this particular case
       is a fair, adequate and reasonable sentence considering the advisory guideline range
       that applies, and as well considering the additional factors contained within 18
       [U.S.C.] Section 3553(a).
J.A. at 40-41 (2/2/06 Hr’g at 13-14). The district court also sentenced Thomas to five years of
supervised release, a $4,500 fine, and ten dollars in restitution. Thomas timely appealed.
                                          II. ANALYSIS
       Thomas argues that his sentence should be vacated because the district court’s sentencing
determination was procedurally unreasonable.
A. Standard of Review
         We review a district court’s sentencing determination for reasonableness, Rita v. United
States, --- U.S. ---, 

, 2459 (2007); United States v. Webb, 

, 383 (6th Cir.
2005), cert. denied, --- U.S. ---, 

(2006), which, we have determined, “has both
substantive and procedural components,” United States v. Jones, --- F.3d ---, 

, at
*5 (6th Cir. June 5, 2007). The Supreme Court’s recent decision in Rita v. United States “reinforces
our conclusion that reasonableness review requires us to inquire into both ‘the length of the
sentence’ and ‘the factors evaluated and the procedures employed by the district court in reaching
its sentencing determination.’” United States v. Liou, --- F.3d ---, 

, at *4 (6th Cir.
July 20, 2007) (quoting 

). “Rita exhorts the sentencing judge to satisfy the
procedural requirement of ‘set[ting] forth enough to satisfy the appellate court that he has considered
the parties’ arguments and has a reasoned basis for exercising his own legal decisionmaking
authority.’” 

original) (quoting Rita,127 S. Ct. at 2468). Accordingly, “we review
the sentencing transcript to ensure (1) that the sentencing judge adequately considered the relevant
§ 3553(a) factors and clearly stated his reasons for imposing the chosen sentence, and (2) that the
sentence is substantively reasonable.” 

(footnote omitted). Although “[t]he amount of
reasoning required varies according to context,” 

“we will vacate a sentence if the ‘context
and the record’ do not ‘make clear’ the court’s reasoning,” 

n.4 (quoting 

).
        The government agrees that we normally review a sentence for reasonableness, but argues
that we should review the district court’s sentencing determination in this case only for plain error
because Thomas did not object below to the district court’s statement of reasons. In United States
v. Bostic, 

(6th Cir. 2004), we set forth the following rule governing this issue:
       [D]istrict courts, after pronouncing the defendant’s sentence but before adjourning
       the sentencing hearing, [must] ask the parties whether they have any objections to
       the sentence just pronounced that have not previously been raised. If the district
       court fails to provide the parties with this opportunity, they will not have forfeited
       their objections and thus will not be required to demonstrate plain error on appeal.
       If a party does not clearly articulate any objection and the grounds upon which the
No. 06-1290                 United States v. Thomas                                                                     Page 4


         objection is based, when given this final opportunity [to] speak, then that party will
         have forfeited its opportunity to make any objections not previously raised and thus
         will face plain error review on appeal.

(footnote omitted). We have since made clear that “[a] district court can satisfy the
requirements of the Bostic rule only by clearly asking for objections to the sentence that have not
been previously raised.” United States v. Clark, 

, 570 (6th Cir. 2006). In this case, the
district court asked Thomas’s counsel, “Do you have anything further for the record, Mr. Canady?”
J.A. at 44-45 (2/2/06 Hr’g at 17-18). We have previously determined that a similar question by the
district court is not clear enough to satisfy the requirements of the Bostic rule. See 

(concluding that a district court did not satisfy the requirements of the Bostic rule by asking,
“Anything else, Ms. Goode?”). Accordingly, Thomas’s failure to raise his argument below does not
limit us to plain-error review.
B. Procedural Reasonableness
         Thomas argues that the district court’s sentencing determination was procedurally
unreasonable because the district court did not adequately set forth reasons for imposing Thomas’s
sentence. We agree. The record makes clear that the district court considered the applicable
Guidelines range, but not much else. The district court generally noted “the defendant’s background
and behavior in this particular case,” J.A. at 41 (2/2/06 Hr’g at 14), but otherwise never mentioned
anything resembling the § 3553(a) factors, save a conclusory reference to “considering the additional
factors contained within 18 [U.S.C.] Section 3553(a),” 

above, Thomas in his
sentencing memorandum raised a number of arguments regarding application of the § 3553(a)
factors, but those arguments went unmentioned and unaddressed, save the general statement by the
district court that it had received, read, and understood the sentencing memorandum. In such
circumstances, we must conclude that “the ‘context and the record’ do not ‘make clear’ the court’s
reasoning,” Liou, 

, at *5 n.4 (quoting 

), and, accordingly,
we must vacate Thomas’s sentence. See also 

(“[W]e review the sentencing transcript to
ensure . . . that the sentencing judge adequately considered the relevant § 3553(a) factors and clearly
stated his reasons for imposing the chosen sentence . . . .”).
         We recognize that the district court’s statement of reasons in this case bears some
resemblance to the statement of reasons sanctioned by the Supreme Court in Rita. In that case, the
district court, after listening to and repeating the defendant’s arguments, stated that it was “unable
to find” that the defendant should be sentenced below the applicable Guidelines range, mentioned
§ 3553 and the need to protect the public, and concluded that a sentence at the bottom of the
Guidelines range was “appropriate.” 

, 2469. Importantly, though, the record
in Rita made clear that the district court considered and rejected the defendant’s arguments for a
lower sentence, as the district court summarized the defendant’s three arguments before rejecting
them and sentencing the defendant within the Guidelines range. 

In this case, the district
court’s only mention of Thomas’s numerous arguments for a lower sentence was the statement, “I
certainly have received [the sentencing memorandum], read it and understand its presentations.”
J.A. at 34 (2/2/06 Hr’g at 7). This conclusory statement leaves us unsure as to whether the district
court adequately considered and rejected Thomas’s arguments regarding proper application         of the
§ 3553(a) factors or whether it misconstrued, ignored, or forgot Thomas’s arguments.3 Because the
district court did not “set forth enough to satisfy the appellate court that he has considered the

         3
           The dissent lists many of Thomas’s arguments and identifies a number of reasons why the district court might
have rejected them. This is exactly what the district court did not do, however, and it is not our role to supply reasons
for the district court’s sentencing determination where the district court itself supplied none. See Liou, 

, at *5 (“[I]t is for the district court to determine, in the first instance, what sentence is ‘sufficient, but not greater
than necessary’ to meet these interests [set forth in 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a)].” (quoting 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a))).
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parties’ arguments and has a reasoned basis for exercising his own legal decisionmaking authority,”

, Rita requires that we vacate Thomas’s sentence.
                                      III. CONCLUSION
       Because the record does not make clear the district court’s consideration of the relevant
§ 3553(a) factors and its reasoning for imposing the sentence that it did, we VACATE Thomas’s
sentence and REMAND the case for resentencing.
No. 06-1290           United States v. Thomas                                                     Page 6


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                                           DISSENT
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        FORESTER, District Judge. Respectfully, I dissent from the majority opinion and would
affirm the sentence of Kenneth Roy Thomas.
         Thomas was convicted by a jury of robbing a bank by intimidation on September 23, 2002.
His escape plan was thwarted, and he was apprehended several blocks from the bank with red dye-
pack ink on his hands. 116 Fed. Appx. 727, 729. At the time of this offense, Thomas was on parole
from two separate convictions for bank robbery. J.A. at 57. As a career criminal, his criminal
history category was VI. 

range for his imprisonment was 210 to 262 months;
however, the statutory maximum was 240 months. The court acknowledged reading and
understanding the memorandum from counsel. It discussed counsel’s argument that the presentence
report should not include an enhancement for possession of a knife and agreed with that. J.A. at 29,
41. The court articulated its consideration of the presentence report and Thomas’ career offender
status, Thomas’ background and behavior in this particular case, the advisory nature of the Guideline
range, Thomas’ need for substance abuse treatment and mental health treatment, and Thomas’
inability to pay the fine imposed. Under the circumstances, the court found the 240-month sentence
to be “fair, adequate and reasonable.” J.A. at 41.
        Thomas did not claim on appeal that his sentence was substantively unreasonable. He did
not argue below or on appeal any factual basis that would warrant a departure from the Guidelines.
He did not claim that the Guidelines failed to treat properly some characteristic of his, or that they
reflected unsound judgment in any manner. His sole criticism on appeal was that the district court
failed to articulate sufficiently its consideration of the § 3553(a) factors.
        In United States v. Williams, 

(6th Cir. 2006), this court considered an
argument that a sentencing court failed to integrate properly the statutory factors during sentencing.
In rejecting Williams’ claim, this court said:
       Williams identifies no factor from § 3553(a) that would render his sentence
       unreasonable; instead he asks the court to conclude that the district court’s failure to
       explicitly discuss each factor rendered his sentence unreasonable. “Although the
       district court may not have mentioned all of the [§ 3553(a)] factors ... explicitly, and
       although explicit mention of those factors may facilitate review, this court has never
       required the ‘ritual incantation’ of the factors to affirm a sentence.”

quoting United States v. Johnson, 

, 816 (6th Cir. 2005). See also United
States v. McGee, ___ F.3d ___, 

at *6 (“Indeed, in most cases, if there is no
factual basis for a defendant’s argument, the district court need not specifically address the
argument”).
        Rita v. United States, 

(2007), addressed the same argument made by Thomas
that there was an insufficient articulation of the court’s consideration of the § 3553(a) factors.
Rejecting that argument, the court said: “In our view, given the straightforward, conceptually simple
arguments before the judge, the judge’s statement of reasons here, though brief, was legally
sufficient.” 

Rita made it clear that when no legitimate argument is made for a
departure and the case appears typical of its type, little need be said.
       Nonetheless, when a judge decides simply to apply the Guidelines to a particular
       case, doing so will not necessarily require lengthy explanation. Circumstances may
No. 06-1290              United States v. Thomas                                               Page 7


        well make clear that the judge rests his decision upon the Commission’s own
        reasoning that the Guidelines sentence is a proper sentence (in terms of § 3553(a)
        and other congressional mandates) in the typical case, and that the judge has found
        that the case before him is typical. Unless a party contests the Guidelines sentence
        generally under § 3553(a) – that is argues that the Guidelines reflect an unsound
        judgment, or, for example, that they do not generally treat certain defendant
        characteristics in the proper way – or argues for departure, the judge normally need
        not say more.
        Where the defendant or prosecutor presents nonfrivolous reasons for imposing a
        different sentence, however, the judge will normally go further and explain why he
        has rejected those arguments.

        The majority seeks to distinguish Rita because the record “made clear that the district court
considered and rejected the defendant’s arguments for a lower sentence, as the district court
summarized the defendant’s three arguments before rejecting them and sentencing the defendant
within the Guidelines range.” Slip Opinion at 7. The critical distinction in Rita is that the defense
in that case presented the district court with three “nonfrivolous reasons for imposing a different
sentence,” including that Rita was a vulnerable defendant because of his prior government criminal
justice work, that he had military experience and that his physical condition was poor. 

         By contrast, the defense memorandum in the present case provided conclusory statements
regarding circumstances that are already encompassed by the Guidelines. For example, defense
counsel mentioned that no weapons were used or displayed and no one was injured. The base
offense level of 20 in this case presupposes a relatively nonviolent crime. Had there been violence
in the form of brandishing a dangerous weapon, threats, or injury, the offense level would have been
“enhanced.” U.S.S.G. § 2B3.1. Thus, relative nonviolence does not support imposing a different
sentence. United States v. Funk, 

, 427 (6th Cir. 2007) (“It therefore defies logic to
reduce the defendant’s sentence because of the absence of this factor; the properly calculated
guidelines range has already taken into account its absence”). Similarly, the argument that
“defendants convicted of similar crimes generally received far shorter sentences” merely reflected
a disagreement with Congress’ substantial mandatory sentence for a career offender. Counsel
argued: “ If Mr. Thomas were not classified as a career offender, his range could be considerably
lower.” Presentence Brief, p. 5. The court could not consider that argument, however. 

(“But the district court’s disagreement with congress as to what constitutes an
appropriate sentence for a repeat offender of the kind described by U.S.S.G. § 4B1.1 is a policy
matter, and not a permissible factor upon which to base a sentencing determination”). The
seriousness of the offense, just punishment, unwarranted sentencing disparities, and protection of
the public are all encompassed by the Guidelines. This sentence reflecting a proper application of
the Guidelines was entitled to a presumption of reasonableness on appeal. 

.
“[W]here judge and Commission both determine that the Guidelines sentence is an appropriate
sentence for the case at hand, that sentence likely reflects the § 3553(a) factors (including its ‘not
greater than necessary’ requirement).” 

        In the present case, there is sufficient evidence that the district court heard and considered
the arguments made. The court even showed considerable patience with Thomas’ insistence that
some verbal order had unfairly constrained his counsel. J.A. at 34-40. As in Williams, “the district
court articulated its reasoning sufficiently to permit reasonable appellate review.” 

. Rita does not require more. Accordingly, I would affirm.