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                                                                                    [PUBLISH]

                 IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS

                           FOR THE ELEVENTH CIRCUIT
                             ________________________

                               Nos. 12-15660 & 13-12009
                              ________________________

                     D.C. Docket No. 8:10-cr-00550-EAK-MAP-6


UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

                                                                           Plaintiff - Appellee,

                                            versus

GEORGE R. CAVALLO,
PAULA L. HORNBERGER,
JOEL A. STREINZ.

                                                                     Defendants - Appellants.

                              ________________________

                     Appeals from the United States District Court
                          for the Middle District of Florida
                            ________________________


                                      (June 22, 2015)

Before TJOFLAT and JULIE CARNES, Circuit Judges, and DUBOSE ∗, District
Judge.


       ∗
        Honorable Kristi K. DuBose, United States District Judge for the Southern District of
Alabama, sitting by designation.
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JULIE CARNES, Circuit Judge:

      The defendants in this case—George Cavallo, his wife Paula Hornberger,

and Joel Streinz—were players in one of the most long-lasting mortgage fraud

conspiracies in the history of central Florida. From approximately October 1997

through March 2008, these three defendants, along with about a dozen other

people, conspired to solicit and assist friends, family members, and business

associates to fraudulently purchase and sell over thirty residential real estate

properties that were ultimately used as primary residences or for investment

purposes.

      Fifteen of the defendants’ cohorts pled guilty either to the conspiracy count

or to at least one substantive count. Only Cavallo, Hornberger, and Streinz went to

trial,1 and, after a three-month trial, the jury convicted each of them on the count

charging conspiracy to commit wire fraud and to make false statements to an

FDIC-insured bank in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371. Cavallo and Hornberger were

also convicted of one substantive count of making false statements to an FDIC-

insured bank in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1014.

      Cavallo was sentenced to 120-months imprisonment. Hornberger was

sentenced to twelve months and one day imprisonment. Both were ordered to pay


      1
          Richard Bobka pled guilty shortly after the trial had begun.
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over $13 million in restitution. Streinz was sentenced to 60-months imprisonment

and ordered to pay $2,322,676 in restitution. All three appeal their convictions.

Cavallo and Hornberger also appeal their sentences. After careful consideration of

the record and all the briefs, we affirm Cavallo’s and Hornberger’s convictions and

sentences, except that we vacate and remand the orders of restitution issued as to

them. We reverse and vacate Streinz’s conviction.

                                I. BACKGROUND

      The leader of the conspiracy, Craig Adams, devised and led the fraud

scheme, which was referred to at trial as “Craigonomics.” The conspirators would

fraudulently obtain the maximum amount of possible loans for each property by

using false statements on mortgage applications, allowing the conspirators to

minimize the funds needed for closing. The parties would then sell, or “flip,” the

properties to turn a profit. To accomplish this objective, the conspirators would

falsely inflate the sale price of properties in the loan documents they submitted to

lenders and then resell the properties either among themselves, as “friendly”

buyers and sellers, or to others outside the conspiracy. To further reduce the

amount of money needed for closing, the conspirators sometimes obtained second

mortgages from different lenders without disclosing the first mortgage.




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      The loan applications contained material falsehoods concerning: (1) the

purchaser’s and/or buyer’s income, assets, and liabilities; (2) the purchase or sale

price; (3) the amount and source of the down-payment; (4) the identity of the seller

and purchaser/borrower; (5) the familial relationship of the parties; (6) the

purchaser’s/borrower’s intended use of the property; and (7) the disbursement of

the loan proceeds. Some conspirators lived in the fraudulently-acquired homes,

but because most could not afford the mortgage payments and maintenance costs

of the properties, they rented out the homes for additional income. Even then, the

borrowers experienced cash flow problems, and they often took out home equity

loans on their existing properties or acquired new properties and fraudulently

extracted cash from them.

      The leader of the scheme, Craig Adams, initiated and orchestrated the

conspiracy by locating properties and recruiting individuals to participate. Adams,

who pled guilty, recruited Richard Bobka, who is defendant Cavallo’s brother, to

act as a real estate agent, buyer, and seller. Bobka then partnered with Cavallo and

Cavallo’s wife, defendant Hornberger, to fraudulently obtain more properties. On

several occasions, Hornberger served as a friendly buyer because she had a good

credit score. Cavallo handled the bookkeeping, banking, and taxes for many

properties that he and Hornberger acquired with Bobka. Cavallo and Hornberger


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listed several of the fraudulently-acquired properties on their joint tax returns by

claiming rental income and expenses. Cavallo, Bobka, and Hornberger maintained

a joint bank account that they used to hold the fraudulently-acquired loans. Bobka

also recruited defendant Joel Streinz to participate in the conspiracy as a friendly

buyer and seller for two properties.

      On appeal, the three defendants before us raise several issues. Streinz

argues that the district court violated his Sixth Amendment right to counsel when

the court prohibited him from consulting with his attorney during the time period

in which he was testifying: a period that covered three days of trial and two

overnight recesses. Cavallo argues (1) that there was insufficient evidence to

convict him of making false statements to an FDIC-insured bank in violation of 18

U.S.C. § 1014 and (2) that his sentence is substantively and procedurally

unreasonable. Cavallo and Hornberger, together, argue that the district court erred

in (1) ordering and calculating restitution and (2) using sidebar conferences in

violation of their Sixth Amendment right to a public trial. Finally, all three

defendants argue that the district court erred by: (1) failing to fully investigate

possible juror misconduct; (2) failing to conduct an evidentiary hearing on

allegations of witness misconduct in grand jury; and (3) failing to conduct an

evidentiary hearing on alleged defense witness intimidation. We address first any


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contentions that challenge the validity of a conviction, after which we turn to

challenges to the sentences imposed.

               II. STREINZ’S ACCESS TO COUNSEL CLAIM

A.    Background

      After his co-defendants had rested their cases, Streinz informed the court

that he wanted to testify on his own behalf. That testimony was delayed, however,

because on the morning that Streinz’s testimony was scheduled to begin,

Government counsel informed the trial court that Streinz had just produced

documents that were pertinent to his testimony and that should have been provided

much earlier, during discovery. The district court convened a hearing, and Streinz

testified that he had recently found the documents at home, while preparing for

trial. At the Government’s request, the court ordered Streinz, his attorney, the

prosecutor, and a federal agent to go to Streinz’s house to retrieve any other

documents that were subject to discovery. The court recessed the proceedings,

postponing Streinz’s testimony and directing him “not to communicate with

anyone whatsoever with regard to the documents located at your home.”

      Accompanied by the prosecutor, a detective, a federal agent, and his own

attorney, Streinz traveled to his home. Upon entering the house, the group went

directly to an office that contained stacks of papers that Streinz had been


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examining in preparation for trial. The situation became heated, with Streinz

asserting that the officers were engaging in a more intrusive search than was

appropriate for their limited mission, and with the detective, who contended that

Streinz was not complying with the officer’s directives, ultimately calling for

backup. To prevent matters from getting further out of hand, Streinz’s attorney

quickly tried to identify any pertinent documents and brought those documents to

the courtroom, where the prosecutor began reviewing them. While examining

these papers, the prosecutor saw a handwritten notation indicating that the

documents contained Streinz’s work product. Concerned that he might be

improperly examining a defendant’s work product, the prosecutor ceased his

review and asked Streinz’s attorney to keep the documents in a box in the

courtroom in case an issue arose.

      Streinz’s attorney moved for a mistrial the next morning, arguing that his

defense had been compromised by the document retrieval and review procedure.

The court denied the motion and asked Streinz if he still wanted to testify. Streinz

indicated that he did, although he expressed concern that his defense had been

“jeopardized” by the previous day’s events. Streinz’s direct examination then

began. As the trial recessed at the end of the day, the court instructed Streinz that

he could not discuss his testimony with “anyone,” but that he could talk to his


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lawyer about his “constitutional rights.” The court did not, however, explain what

that phrase might mean.

      Prior to resuming his direct testimony the next day, Streinz sent a letter

directly to the court expressing distress at his situation. As set out in that

document, Streinz noted uncertainty whether it was appropriate to send the judge a

letter, but, given the court’s earlier restriction on conversations with his attorney,

he felt that he could not talk with the latter about his concerns without “cross[ing] a

line of violating the court[’s] restrictions.” Streinz stated, among other things, that

his preparation, particularly for cross-examination, had been hampered because he

had been deprived of trial documents that were “seized without any advance

notice,” thereby preventing him from being able to inventory or make copies of the

documents.

      The court acknowledged Streinz’s letter and, while the other trial

participants remained waiting in the courtroom, allowed Streinz, on his own and

without any consultation with his attorney, to review the documents taken from his

home. After he had finished reviewing the documents in the courtroom, Streinz

completed his direct examination, and cross-examination began. Streinz was still

on the stand being cross-examined when the trial day ended. The district court

again reminded him that, although he could talk to his lawyer about “constitutional


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rights” during the overnight recess, he could not talk to his lawyer “about the

case.” Again, the court did not explain what a discussion about Streinz’s

constitutional rights might entail.

      The next morning, Streinz sent a second letter to the court. In this letter,

Streinz expressed his anxiety that, because the court would not allow him talk to

his lawyer, no one was “looking out” for his “interests and due process.” He also

advised the court that the time he had been given to review his documents in court

on the previous day was insufficient, considering that he had been deprived of the

documents for three days. In particular, he noted, the Government had referenced

one of those documents in court the day before and likely would do so again, and

Streinz had no access to that document to better prepare himself for cross-

examination. He concluded by suggesting that errors made by the Government, his

attorney, and the court were “sabotaging [his] ability to be prepared and properly

defend [his] case.”

      The district court acknowledged Streinz’s complaint but indicated that the

documents had been available to Streinz ever since his attorney, in the company of

Government personnel, had retrieved them from Streinz’s home. (But as Streinz

was not supposed to be talking to his attorney about the case, it is unclear how

Streinz would have known that he could have requested his lawyer to hand over


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the documents to him.) Regarding the impact of any errors on Streinz’s right to

testify, the court reminded Streinz that it had previously informed him that he had a

constitutional right not to testify. Then, after giving Streinz forty additional

minutes to review the documents in the courtroom, cross-examination began again.

B.    Discussion

      Streinz argues that his Sixth Amendment rights were violated by the trial

court’s refusal to allow him to confer with counsel during the two overnight

recesses while he was testifying. We agree.

      We review Streinz’s Sixth Amendment claim pursuant to a de novo

standard. See United States v. Williams, 

, 1239 (11th Cir. 2008)

(reiterating that claims of constitutional error are reviewed de novo). A trial is

deemed unfair if the accused is denied counsel at a critical stage of his trial. See

United States v. Cronic, 

, 659 (1984). The question here is whether,

by prohibiting Streinz from speaking to his attorney about his case during the three

days he was on the witness stand—including the two overnight recesses—the

district court deprived Streinz of assistance of counsel at a critical stage of the

proceedings. We conclude that the district court’s restriction did so deprive

Streinz.




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       This conclusion is dictated, for the most part, by the Supreme Court’s

decision in Geders v. United States, 

, 91 (1976). In Geders, which was

also tried in the Middle District of Florida, the district court had directed defendant

Geders not to talk to his attorney “about anything” 2 during a seventeen-hour

overnight recess between his direct and cross-examination. 

n.1. Geders’

attorney objected, explaining that he had a right to talk to his client about matters

other than the imminent cross-examination. The district court declined counsel’s

request, noting that the latter could talk to Geders, while remaining in the

courtroom, about the witnesses to be called the next day, but nothing more than

that. Further, the court assured counsel that he would be able to consult with

Geders once the latter’s cross-examination had concluded and before redirect

examination, and the court did allow that post-cross-examination consultation the

next day. 

       In determining whether the district court’s sequestration of Geders from his

own attorney during the overnight recess violated Geders’ constitutional right to

counsel, the Supreme Court acknowledged that, as a general rule, valid reasons

       2
           In directly addressing defendant Geders at the conclusion of the colloquy on this
matter, the district court stated: “[Mr. Geders] . . . I direct you not to discuss your testimony in
this case with anyone until you are back here tomorrow morning . . . for the purpose of being
cross-examined.” 

n.1 (emphasis added). Based on its review of the
totality of the discussion and the court’s earlier statements, the Supreme Court concluded that the
actual message communicated to the defendant was that he was not to talk to his attorney about
anything. 

of this colloquy appears to be resolved by the direction that
petitioner ‘not talk to you (counsel) about anything.’”).
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exist for disallowing a witness who is testifying from speaking to trial counsel at

recess periods during that testimony. The main justification for this prohibition is

the interest in deflecting efforts by third-parties to coach the witness before he

returns to the stand the next day to face cross-examination. 

Yet, as the

Court noted, a criminal defendant is not just another witness. Although a non-

party witness will likely have little to discuss with trial counsel other than his

upcoming testimony, an accused and his attorney will often have many other

matters to discuss during an overnight recess. Indeed, the Court noted, “[s]uch

recesses are often times of intensive work, with tactical decisions to be made and

strategies to be reviewed.” 

For example, defense counsel “may need to

obtain from his client information made relevant by the day’s testimony, or he may

need to pursue inquiry along lines not fully explored earlier. At the very least, the

overnight recess during trial gives the defendant a chance to discuss with counsel

the significance of the day’s events.” 

was sympathetic to a district court’s desire to minimize the

opportunities for a witness to be coached during a long recess, the Supreme Court

nonetheless determined that an accused’s right to confer with counsel trumps a

court’s concerns about such consultation. Specifically, when there is a conflict

between a testifying defendant’s right to consult with his attorney during “a long


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overnight recess” and the prosecutor’s desire to eliminate the risk that defense

counsel will coach his client before the latter’s cross-examination, “the conflict

must, under the Sixth Amendment, be resolved in favor of the right to the

assistance and guidance of counsel.” 

       Geders’ conviction was overturned because the trial court would not let him

talk to his lawyer during one overnight recess. The district court here, in effect,

restricted Streinz from talking to his attorney during two overnight recesses that

occurred while he was testifying. 3 Thus, on its face, Geders appears to call for

reversal of Streinz’s conviction. The Government, however, disagrees that Geders

requires a conclusion that Streinz’s right to counsel was violated, and we now turn

to those distinctions that the Government says exist between this case and Geders.

       First, the Government cites language, here and there, from Perry v. Leeke,

(1989), in support of its argument that Streinz’s right to counsel was

not compromised by the district court’s broad embargo on conversations between

Streinz and his attorney. But it is difficult to discern how Perry bolsters the

Government’s position. In Perry, the trial court had only prohibited the defendant

from consulting with his attorney during a fifteen-minute recess that occurred after


       3
          As noted, on the first night, while Streinz was still testifying on direct, the court told
him that he could not discuss his testimony with “anyone,” but that he could talk to his lawyer
about his “constitutional rights.” On the second night, the district court reminded Streinz that he
could not talk to his lawyer “about the case,” although he could talk to his lawyer about his
“constitutional rights.”
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the defendant’s direct testimony had concluded and before cross-examination was

to begin. 

Given the timing and short duration of the recess, the

Supreme Court distinguished Geders and concluded that the defendant’s right to

assistance of counsel had not been compromised by sequestration from his attorney

during such a brief period of time.

       In reaching this conclusion, the Court noted that a defendant has no

constitutional right to consult with his lawyer while testifying. 

In other

words, if a defendant gets in a tight spot on cross-examination, “neither he nor his

lawyer has a right to have the testimony interrupted in order to give him the benefit

of counsel’s advice.” 

defendant allowed to huddle with his lawyer

whenever the going gets tough, the truth-seeking function of the trial would be

impeded.4 And if a defendant has no right to call a time-out to talk with counsel

during his testimony, he similarly has no right to take advantage of a fortuitously-

timed recess “in which there is a virtual certainty that any conversation between

the witness and the lawyer would relate to the ongoing testimony.” 5 

       4
           This is so not so much because of the fear of unethical coaching by counsel, but
because consultation with counsel “grants the witness an opportunity to regroup and regain a
poise and sense of strategy that the unaided witness would not possess. . . . [T]he discovery of
truth [is less likely when] a witness [] is given time to pause and consult with his attorney.”

.
       5
         It should be noted, though, that the Supreme Court made clear that it was not criticizing
judges who do permit criminal defendants to consult with counsel during a short trial recess.
The Court merely held that “the Federal Constitution does not compel every trial judge to allow
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       But, in terms of the right to assistance of counsel, a period of silence

between a criminal defendant and his attorney during a short recess was a far

different matter for the Perry court than would be a similar quarantine during an

overnight recess. Reaffirming Geders, the Court noted that during an overnight

recess, normal consultation between defendant and counsel would “encompass

matters that go beyond the content of the defendant’s own testimony,” including

the availability of other witnesses, trial tactics, or even negotiating a plea

agreement. 

And the “fact that such discussions will inevitably include

some consideration of the defendant’s ongoing testimony does not compromise

that basic right.” 

we read Perry as reaffirming the validity of the Geders principle.

The district court’s restriction on Streinz’s ability to consult with his attorney

during two overnight recesses clearly “falls on the Geders side of the line and

violates the Sixth Amendment.” United States v. Sandoval-Mendoza, 

, 651 (9th Cir. 2006) (holding that Geders precludes “any overnight ban on

communication”); see also 

(“It is the defendant’s right to

unrestricted access to his lawyer for advice on a variety of trial-related matters that

is controlling in the context of a long recess.”).



the defendant to consult with his lawyer while his testimony is in progress” just because a short
recess has been called. 

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      In fact, this case involves the kind of communications that Geders intended

to protect. The day before Streinz began his direct examination, the Government

had taken documents and work product from Streinz’s house that he needed to

prepare for his testimony. Thereafter, and throughout his direct and cross-

examination, Streinz’s access to the documents was limited to brief, in-court

review sessions. As both Streinz and his attorney interpreted the court’s

instruction, Streinz could not confer with his attorney even to determine whether or

how he could regain possession of the documents. Nor could he discuss with his

attorney the likelihood that his defense had been compromised by the

Government’s retrieval and review process, or any means to reduce that threat. See

(“At the very least, the overnight recess during trial gives

the defendant a chance to discuss with counsel the significance of the day’s events.

. . . [T]he role of counsel is important precisely because ordinarily a defendant is

ill-equipped to understand and deal with the trial process without a lawyer’s

guidance.”).

      The Government argues that the district court did not actually prevent

Streinz from conferring with counsel during overnight recesses, or even during in-

court recesses, because the court told Streinz several times that he could discuss

with his lawyer his “constitutional rights.” We do not know what the district court


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meant by this exemption, and it appears obvious that neither did Streinz. Clearly,

Streinz was of the impression that the court had forbidden him from consulting at

all with his attorney about his case, which was not an unreasonable assumption

because those were the court’s exact words. Otherwise, he would not have felt

compelled, during the course of his testimony, to write the court two letters

revealing his concerns, and particularly his need for access to documents that the

Government had taken from his home on the day his direct examination was to

have begun. Indeed, Streinz told the judge, outright, that he had written the letter

rather than dealing through counsel because he did not want to run afoul of the

court’s order against communications between him and his attorney.

       As to what one could reasonably assume the district court to have meant by

the phrase “constitutional rights,” when the court told Streinz not to speak to his

attorney about anything except those rights, the court had previously and

consistently used this term to refer to Streinz’s Fifth Amendment right against self-

incrimination.6 But any discussion about Streinz’s right against self-incrimination

       6
          On the day that Government counsel complained that Streinz had not turned over all
discovery, which was prior to Streinz’s direct examination, Streinz gave a sworn “proffer”
outside of the jury’s presence as to this matter. Before that proffer, the district court inquired
whether it was his intention to waive his “constitutional rights, not exercise [his] Fifth
Amendment rights and to testify.” Afterward, the district court reminded Streinz that just
because he had waived his constitutional rights by giving a testimonial proffer, he could rescind
that waiver and “exercise his constitutional right” not to testify before the jury. Just prior to this
exchange, at a sidebar conference, the court had advised defense counsel that Streinz’s
constitutional rights were at stake once he took the stand.

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would have been a very short conversation because Streinz had already begun

testifying, and any right he might have earlier had not to incriminate himself had,

by that time, become a moot point.

       And even if we assume that the district court intended to permit

communication on a broader array of subjects than just Streinz’s right against self-

incrimination, its instruction that Streinz should not talk to his attorney about “the

case” during an overnight recess did not comply with Geders. See 

(noting the wide variety of trial-related communications that are protected

by Geders and stating that the “fact that such discussions will inevitably include

some consideration of the defendant’s ongoing testimony does not compromise” a

defendant’s right to assistance of counsel during an overnight recess).

       Finally, citing Crutchfield v. Wainwright, 

(11th Cir. 1986)

(en banc), the Government makes a two-fold argument (1) that Streinz failed to

preserve this issue on appeal because he did not object to the district court’s


        On the next day, right before Streinz took the stand to testify before the jury, the court
stated: “Now, this will be the third time I believe that I have advised you of your constitutional
rights. You have a Fifth Amendment constitutional right against self-incrimination . . . . Now,
since the last time that I advised you of your constitutional rights have you had . . . an
opportunity to counsel with your attorney with regard to whether or not you should testify?”

        After Streinz’s second letter, the court responded to his complaint that his ability to
defend his case had been sabotaged by stating: “Sir, I told you before you had a constitutional
right to testify or not to testify.”



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restriction and (2) that there is no indication that Streinz actually wanted to talk to

his attorney during the overnight recesses. In Crutchfield, the state trial court

called a brief recess during defendant Crutchfield’s direct testimony and instructed

defense counsel not to discuss the defendant’s testimony with him during that

break. Crutchfield did not object. 

After conviction, and relying on

Geders, Crutchfield filed a federal habeas corpus petition, arguing that the trial

court’s restriction on his communication with his attorney deprived him of the

assistance of counsel.

      The en banc court unanimously agreed that the conviction should not be

vacated, but three opinions were issued, with each opinion reflecting different

reasoning in support of this outcome. A six-judge plurality of the en banc court

concluded that Geders applied even to short recesses within a trial day and

assumed that the trial court’s admonition to Crutchfield did unconstitutionally

restrict his right to the assistance of counsel during that recess. 

But in Geders, the defendant had objected to the proscription against consultation.

Crutchfield neither objected to the court’s instruction nor did the record reflect that

there was a desire to consult by either him or his counsel. Accordingly, because a

defendant must show that the prohibition against consultation actually prevented




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him from conferring with counsel, the plurality concluded that Crutchfield had

failed to show a deprivation of his right to assistance of counsel. 

      The five-judge concurring opinion read the plurality opinion as establishing

a per se rule that any restriction by the trial court on the ability to confer with

counsel during any recess, no matter how short in duration, constitutes a

deprivation of counsel. 

Viewing that analysis as too simplistic, the

concurring opinion indicated that when dealing with a non-overnight recess, one

should look at several factors. And given the relatively short recess and the limited

admonition by the trial court, the concurring opinion concluded that Crutchfield

had not suffered a constitutional deprivation of the right to counsel. 

16. Further, the concurring opinion not only disagreed with the plurality opinion’s

application of a per se rule to the question whether an error had occurred, but also

found fault with the latter’s application of a per se rule requiring a

contemporaneous objection to preserve that error for review. 

The

concurring opinion noted that the plurality’s rule would mean that a trial court

could prevent a defendant from speaking to counsel during a week-long recess—

which under Geders would clearly constitute a constitutional error—but if no

objection were made, the error would not be deemed preserved: a result that the




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concurring opinion concluded would not be consistent, in all cases, with

established principles concerning the waiver of constitutional rights. 7 

two years after this Court’s decision in Crutchfield, the Supreme

Court issued its decision in Perry, concluding that a trial court’s restriction of

consultation between a testifying defendant and his counsel during a brief recess

does not constitute a deprivation of the defendant’s right to counsel. Thus, that

part of the Crutchfield plurality decision holding invalid even a brief restriction of

consultation between a defendant and his attorney is no longer good law. As to the

plurality’s requirement that a contemporaneous objection be lodged to preserve

error when such restrictions on consultations are imposed by a trial court, we need

not decide whether such an objection would be required in all circumstances

because we conclude that Streinz did object to the district court’s imposition of a

restriction on his right to consult with counsel and that the prohibition against

consultation actually prevented Streinz from conferring with his attorney.

       Here, although Streinz’s two letters to the district court did not contain the

phrase, “I object,” he clearly conveyed the distress and confusion that the court’s

restrictions were causing him. See United States v. Johnson, 

, 380



       7
         The third opinion in the case, authored by a single judge, disagreed with the plurality
opinion’s announcement of a per se rule as to the existence of error in this context and further
concluded that a defendant should be required to show prejudice if error did occur. 

21.
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(5th Cir. 2001) (holding that, after the district court prohibited counsel from

consulting with the defendant during two overnight recesses occurring while the

defendant was testifying, counsel “made clear his desire to confer with [the

defendant],” and was not required to “preface his remarks with the magic words, ‘I

object.’”); United States v. Isom, 

, 923 n.7 (11th Cir. 1996) (explaining

that although appellants did not use the words “double jeopardy” in their objection

below, the substance of their argument was sufficient to preserve a claim under the

Double Jeopardy Clause); see also United States v. Munoz, 

, 1374

(11th Cir. 2005) (agreeing that a defendant may preserve a constitutional objection

“in a number of ways, and need not object explicitly on constitutional or Sixth

Amendment grounds”).

      Streinz’s two letters and his colloquies with the trial court adequately

conveyed his request to confer with counsel and his belief that his rights were

being violated as a result of the court’s refusal to allow him to do so. He therefore

alerted the court to the problem and gave it an opportunity to correct any error. See

United States v. Turner, 

, 1276 (11th Cir. 2007) (noting that one of

the “fundamental purposes” of the contemporaneous objection rule is to give the

trial court an opportunity to address and avoid errors). The district court failed to

do so and we therefore conclude that the trial court’s orders prohibiting him from


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conferring with counsel during two overnight recesses impermissibly infringed on

Streinz’s fundamental right to counsel. 

; see also 

(reaffirming that Geders controls in the context of a long recess). For

this reason, we REVERSE Streinz’s conviction and remand for a new trial.8

                   III. ALLEGED GRAND JURY MISCONDUCT

A.     Background

       Defendants Cavallo and Hornberger (“Defendants”) contend that, while

testifying before the grand jury that indicted them, a federal agent perjured himself

when responding to a grand juror’s question. They appeal the district court’s

denial of their motions 9 to dismiss the indictment based on this alleged

misconduct. The pertinent facts are as follows.

       During the course of a day-long grand jury session focusing on the present

case, an FBI agent testified about the many documents related to the mortgage

fraud conspiracy. After he had discussed at length a specific overt act related to a

property on 1762 Southpointe Drive, which overt act was also charged as a

substantive offense in Count 37, a grand juror asked the agent a question:



       8
         Streinz has asserted other errors, including an allegation that the retrieval of his
documents at his home was improper. Given our reversal of his conviction on the ground
discussed in text, we do not decide any other issues he has raised in this appeal.
       9
          Defendants moved to dismiss the indictment on this ground, both prior to trial and at
the close of all the evidence during trial.
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      GRAND JUROR: On all these – on all these documents that have
      been signed by these people who are named in the indictment, in each
      count of the indictment, has it been verified that Bobka, Cavallo, and
      Hornberger in Count 37 actually signed the documents that they are
      alleged to have signed? I mean, their name’s been verified that, yeah,
      that’s truly that person’s signature and they weren’t forged by
      somebody else?

      WITNESS: Right. Through the investigation, yes sir, we’ve done
      that, either through interviews of people, and again, I’ll go back, you
      know, sometimes – many times admissions that they, going right
      through it, yes, that’s my signature. Yes, that’s my signature. And
      many times throughout – the total information that we have from
      witnesses about who the parties were involved, who was at the
      closing, what was observed and seen in terms of signing.

      GRAND JUROR: Okay.

      WITNESS: So we’ve done it through that way. We – that would be
      the way that we’ve done it.

      In their motions to dismiss, Defendants argued that, through this response,

the agent essentially testified that every signature on every relevant document in

this case had been verified as belonging to the purported signer. This, they argue,

was not accurate and thus the agent made a perjurious statement. In support of this

assertion, they cite Hornberger’s testimony at trial that a number of signatures on

loan documents bearing her name and Cavallo’s name were forged by Richard

Bobka, who had recruited Hornberger and Cavallo to participate in the scheme and


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who was substantially involved in the purchase, sale, and management of

properties with Hornberger and Cavallo. Additionally, Streinz testified that he did

not sign several documents bearing his name related to properties on

Commonwealth Drive and Anchorage Drive.

B.    Discussion

      We review a district court’s denial of a motion to dismiss an indictment for

abuse of discretion but, in determining whether the court abused its discretion, we

resolve issues of law de novo. United States v. Schwartz, 

, 1355

n.69 (11th Cir. 2008). Likewise, we review a claim of prosecutorial misconduct

de novo because it is a mixed question of law and fact. United States v. Duran,

, 1299 (11th Cir. 2010).

      As a general matter, to establish prosecutorial misconduct for the use of false

testimony, a defendant must show that the prosecutor knowingly used perjured

testimony or failed to correct what he subsequently learned was false testimony,

and that the falsehood was material. United States v. McNair, 

, 1208

(11th Cir. 2010). When the alleged prosecutorial misconduct occurs in the context

of a grand jury proceeding, we dismiss the indictment only when the misconduct

“substantially influenced the grand jury’s decision to indict” or when there is

“grave doubt that the decision to indict was free from the substantial influence of


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such violations.”10 Bank of Nova Scotia v. United States, 

, 256 (1988)

(internal quotations omitted). Accord United States v Verbitskaya, 

,

1336 and n.13 (11th Cir. 2005); United States v. Vallejo, 

, 1166

(11th Cir. 2002).

       As to the elements of perjury, “perjury” is testimony “given with the willful

intent to provide false testimony and not as a result of a mistake, confusion, or

faulty memory.” United States v. Ellisor, 

, 1277 n.34 (11th Cir.

2008). Yet, an agent’s inadvertent giving of false testimony before the grand jury

does not warrant dismissal of an indictment. United States v. DiBernardo, 

, 1475 (11th Cir. 1985).

       With the above standards in mind and upon examination of the testimony at

issue, we conclude that Defendants have failed to show that the agent’s answer to

the grand juror’s question was untruthful. Even if one could assume some

inaccuracy in the agent’s response to the grand juror’s imprecisely-worded

question, Defendants have failed to demonstrate that the agent intentionally made a

false statement, or that the prosecutor would so interpret his testimony. It is

Defendants’ thesis that, in response to a spontaneous question by the grand juror,



       10
           Prejudice is not required to be shown, however, if the error has so compromised the
structural protections of the grand jury “as to render the proceedings fundamentally unfair,” in
which case there is “a presumption of prejudice.” Bank of Nova Scotia v. United States, 

, 257 (1988).
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the agent falsely told the grand jurors that investigators had verified that each

signature on every pertinent document in the entire case had actually been made by

the purported signer. But that is not a fair reading of the question to which the

agent was responding. As set out above, the grand juror’s question specifically

referenced Count 37, which charged Bobka, Cavallo, and Hornberger with making

and causing to be made false statements in connection with a loan application

submitted in Hornberger’s name. As the Government noted in its response to

Defendants’ pretrial motion to dismiss the indictment, there was ample evidence to

indicate that Hornberger had, in fact, signed this document. The Government’s

contention is borne out by the fact that at trial, the jury found, beyond a reasonable

doubt, that Hornberger was guilty of Count 37.

      And to the extent that the agent’s answer might arguably seem broader than

just a reference to Count 37, it is apparent that he was not actually vouching for

each signature on every document as, just minutes before this response, the agent

had advised the grand jurors that Bobka had, in fact, forged Hornberger’s name on

other documents. That the agent would thereafter immediately contradict his own

testimony and assert that every signature in the case had been verified is

implausible, as is the notion that the grand jury would so understand his testimony.

In short, Defendants failed to demonstrate that the agent knowingly lied before the


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grand jury or that the prosecutor would understand the agent to have done so. The

district court therefore did not err in denying the motions to dismiss the indictment.

              IV. ALLEGED EXTRINSIC INFLUENCE ON JURY

       Defendants Cavallo and Hornberger 11 argue that their convictions should be

reversed because, during deliberations, a juror allegedly went on the internet and

learned that a testifying (and cooperating) co-conspirator had received only house

arrest based on his conviction. Yet, because Defendants had obtained this

information only as a result of Cavallo’s violation of a local rule forbidding contact

with jurors, the district court struck the evidence that Cavallo offered in support of

his allegation of extrinsic influence and denied Defendants’ motion for a new trial.

In addition, the court concluded that the extrinsic information was not harmful to

Defendants. We find no error in the district court’s decision.

A.     Background

       At the beginning of the sentencing hearing on October 26, 2012, the

prosecutor informed the court that he had just observed Cavallo and Hornberger’s

counsel, Ms. Unger, speaking with a juror from the trial in the hallway. Unger

explained that the juror, Juror George, had approached her in the hallway and

asked if they could speak. According to Unger, just as she was telling George that


       11
          Defendant Streinz likewise raises this claim, but as 

, we have reversed his
conviction on a different ground.
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she could not talk to jurors, the prosecutor arrived on the scene. After hearing

Unger’s explanation, the court addressed Juror George, who was present in the

courtroom, and directed him not to communicate with anyone involved in the case.

George confirmed that he understood the instruction, and the sentencing

proceeded.

      On February 20, 2013, which was four months after the sentencing and over

nine months after the jury had returned its verdict, Unger forwarded an email to

prosecutors that she had received from Juror George that day. We summarize this

single-spaced missive. 12 The juror’s email begins with compliments for the good

      12
           The full email reads as follows:

      OK, WHERE TO START I HAVE NO IDEA SO I,LL [sic] JUST START
      TYPING, FIRST OF ALL I THOUGHT YOU DID A GREAT JOB
      DEFENDING YOUR CLIENTS, FROM THE START I COULD SEE YOU
      WERE GOING TO HAVE AN UPHILL BATTLE WITH ALL THE MONEY
      AND RESOURCES THE GOVERNMENT HAS, I WAS GLAD TO SERVE ON
      THE JURY, AFTER GETTING TO KNOW THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE
      JURY I COULD TELL THEY HAD NO IDEA OF HOW THE JUSTICE
      SYSTEM WORKED. I FEEL SOME AGREED WITH THE GOVERNMENT
      JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE THE GOVERNMENT, BUT THEY DON,T
      [sic] REALIZE HOW RUTHLESS THEY CAN BE, FACE IT THEY ARE
      THERE TO PAINT THE WORST PICTURE OF THE DEFENDANTS AS
      THEY CAN SO THAT THEY CAN GET A CONVICTION. THE THINGS I,VE
      [sic] LEARNED SINCE THE TRIAL WAS OVER ONLY WAS AT BEST
      SHOCKING. I SPOKE TO GEORGE [CAVALLO] TODAY AND I,M [sic]
      GLAD WE GOT IN TOUCH TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT
      TRANSPIRED. ON MY PART I FELT THE DEFENSE YOU WERE TRYING
      TO GET ACROSS TO US THE JURY WAS THAT RICHARD WAS THE
      CAUSE OF THERE [sic] DOWNFALL, WHICH I BELIEVE, HE USED HIS
      BEING A FAMILY MEMBER TO INFLUENCE EVERYONE INVOLVED
      FOR HIS OWN MONETARY GAIN. ALSO USING HIS FRIENDS TO DO
      THE SAME. AS FOR THE JURY I HELD OUT ON CONVICTING THEM AS
      LONG AS I COULD AND KNEW THEY WOULD SOONER OR LATER
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job that Unger had done at trial and an observation about the naiveté of fellow

jurors, who purportedly did not know how the justice system works and, in

particular, that prosecutors “can be ruthless” and try “to paint the worst picture of

the defendants.”

      George then reports to Unger that he has learned some “shocking” things

and, in fact, had just spoken to Cavallo that very day. He notes that he believed

that co-defendant Richard Bobka had been the cause of everyone’s “downfall.”



      BEGIN TO NEGOTIATE, I KNEW THE CONSEQUENCES OF BEING
      CONVICTED WOULD BE DEVISTATING [sic] TO YOUR CLIENTS, AT
      THE END THERE WAS 2 OF US HOLDING OUT, MY REASON WAS I
      WASN,T [sic] CONVINCED THE GOVERNMENT PROVED TO ME
      BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. BUT THEY SURE PUT UP A
      CONFUSING SMOKESCREEN. NOW HERE GOES THERE WAS A JUROR
      WHO HELD OUT, REASON BEING SHE BELEF/ED [sic] THAT IF SHE
      HUNG THE JURY THAT THE GOVERNMENT WOULD NOT RETRY
      THEM. I TRIED TO CONVINCE HER OTHERWISE BUT IT TOOK A FEW
      DAYS TO GET HER TO SEE IT MY WAY. I FOUND OUT SHE WAS
      HOLDING OUT FOR A HUNG JURY, ALSO SHE LOOKED UP THINGS ON
      INTERNET EVEN THOUGH WE WERE TOLD NOT TO, I FOUND OUT SHE
      KNEW ONE OF THE DEFENDANTS THAT PLEAD [sic] GUILTY ONLY
      RECEIVED HOUSE ARREST AND NO JAIL TIME, SO SHE TOUGHT [sic]
      BY HANGING THE JURY THERE WOULD BE NO RETRIAL, I TOLD HER
      THAT THE GOVERNMENT WOULDN,T [sic] BACK DOWN AND IF
      CONVICTED AT ANOTHER TRIAL THE DEFENDANTS WOULD
      RECEIVE HARSHER SENTENCES. STILL NOT BELEIVING [sic] THAT
      OTHERS CAME TO ME ABOUT THE SITUATION A [sic] I STATED THAT
      SOON SOMEONE ELSE WOULD BE FACING JUDGE K, I GUESS THEY
      CONVINCED HER I WAS SERIOUS, SHE THEN VOTED TO CONVICT
      ALONG WITH THE REST. I ONLY WANTED TO AGREE TO ONE
      CHARGE BUT COULDN,T [sic] GET THEM TO ALL AGREE. SORRY, I
      KNEW THAT CONSPIRACY CHARGE WAS A BAD ONE TO GET BUT
      THEY INSISTED. PLESE [sic] FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME IF YOU
      HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

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Further, before finally voting to convict, George, along with another juror, had

held out as long as they could, knowing that the “consequences of being convicted

would be devistating [sic]” to the defendants.

      George explains that he had initially held out because he was not sure that

the prosecution had proved its case beyond a reasonable doubt, but instead had

only put up a “confusing smokescreen.” As to the female juror who had been

holding out with him, she was hopeful that if she hung the jury, the Government

would not retry the defendants. She was encouraged in this hope, having learned

from the internet that one of the testifying co-conspirators who had pled guilty had

received only house arrest. But George, who apparently by this time had decided

to vote guilty on some counts, argued to this juror that the Government would not

back down and that, if convicted, the defendants would receive harsher sentences

at a second trial. Eventually, the jury unanimously agreed to convict Defendants

on one substantive count each, as well as on the conspiracy count.

      George closes the email by expressing his regret that he could not convince

his fellow jurors to convict on just one count and also that they insisted on a

conviction on the conspiracy count, which he knew was “a bad one to get.”

Finally, he advises Unger to feel free to contact him with any questions.




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      Upon receiving this email from defense counsel, the Government filed a

notice of juror communications with the district court, and Defendants moved for

an evidentiary hearing to investigate potential juror misconduct. The court held an

organizational meeting with the parties on March 7, 2013 and ordered all future

proceedings in the matter to be sealed and all papers to be filed in camera. No one

objected. The court also ordered the parties to submit questions for the court to ask

Juror George, and all parties complied.

      On March 28, 2013, the court held the first of two in camera hearings.

Government counsel, appellate counsel for each defendant, and Juror George and

his appointed counsel were present. In response to some preliminary questions by

the court, George testified that he had known the court was open to receiving

messages from the jury, including during deliberations, and that if there had been a

problem, he should have contacted the court, which he did not attempt to do at any

point. He further testified that no juror attempted to discuss the case with him; no

one provided him with any extrinsic evidence during trial; and he did not

personally consult any outside sources or observe any other juror doing so.

      Regarding his encounter with defendant Cavallo and Cavallo’s attorney, Ms.

Unger, immediately before sentencing, George testified that he had introduced

himself to Cavallo, and Cavallo had returned his greeting. Then Unger told


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George that she wanted to talk to him and ask him questions, but they did not have

an opportunity to talk further. George testified that although the hallway encounter

was the only direct communication he had with Unger, four months later, in

February 2013, he received a telephone call from Cavallo “out of the blue.”

During that call, Cavallo told George that he had obtained George’s phone number

from a newspaper reporter, Mike Braga, who had covered the trial. Cavallo also

explained how devastating the conviction had been for him and his wife, co-

defendant Hornberger, noting that the Government was taking their family’s home,

had “hit [their] bank accounts on Thanksgiving Day,” and was “going after

everything they have.” Cavallo then asked George about the case and the jury’s

deliberations, and George discussed that with him.

      George testified that Cavallo called him multiple times after the initial call.

During one of those calls, Cavallo stated that he had spoken with Unger, and that

Unger wanted George to email her about the jury deliberations. Cavallo gave

Unger’s email address to George, and George emailed Unger, as Cavallo

requested. Cavallo later called George to confirm that he had sent the email.

During one phone call, George asked Cavallo why he had suddenly started

receiving phone calls from a reporter named Braga, and Cavallo admitted that he

had told Braga everything about the jury deliberations. George told Cavallo he


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was not comfortable with Braga’s involvement and that he “did not want anything

published.” Finally, George testified that he stood by the verdict rendered at trial.

      As noted, Defendants had made no objection when the district judge had

announced, at the organizational meeting two weeks prior to the hearing, that she

intended to “seal” the proceedings. Instead, they waited until the end of the

hearing, to object, for the first time, to the proceedings being sealed and to

Defendants themselves not being present. The district court ruled that Defendants

had waived any objection to the proceedings being sealed. As to Defendants being

present at any future hearing, the court instructed counsel to submit briefs if they

wished to be present. Defendants filed no briefs.

      On April 9, 2013, the court conducted a follow up in camera hearing with

the same parties present, and noted that Defendants had waived their objection to

being present because they had failed to brief the issue, as directed by the court.

As to evidentiary matters handled at this second hearing, Cavallo’s counsel offered

Cavallo’s cell phone records to the court covering the dates on which Cavallo and

George had communicated. The phone records reflected fewer communications

between Cavallo and George than the latter had recalled in his testimony. These

records showed that Cavallo sent one text message to George on February 19, and

George sent one text message back that day. On February 20 and 21, George


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called Cavallo once, and Cavallo telephoned George twice. In short, the records

revealed five communications between the two men: none of which had received

prior court approval.

      After the court reviewed the phone records, the judge again questioned

George, and the latter reaffirmed his earlier testimony that when he and Cavallo

had spoken on the phone, they discussed the information that he subsequently put

in the email to Unger concerning the jury’s deliberations. None of the defendants

objected to the questions posed by the court, nor did they request that the court ask

additional questions or call additional witnesses.

      Their earlier silence notwithstanding, over a week later, on April 19, 2013,

Defendants filed an objection to the manner in which the court conducted its

inquiry, and they moved to subpoena and question Braga, the news reporter, and

the female juror who had allegedly conducted internet research. Defendants also

argued for the first time that the court should have asked George more specific

questions about the contents of his email. Albeit George had offered live

testimony concerning his interactions with Unger and defendant Cavallo, the latter

merely submitted affidavits containing their versions of their interactions with

George. They made no request or offer to provide live testimony concerning their

version of these events. Moreover, Unger’s affidavit was short and bereft of much


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detail, 13 stating only that her sole exchange with George was on the day of the

sentencing hearings, when George exited the elevator and greeted her, and that she

neither instructed nor directed anyone to send the email she received from George.

Unger never discussed whether she had conferred with Cavallo concerning the

latter’s plan to contact George and the conversations between the two men.

       As to Cavallo’s affidavit, he stated that George approached him and

Hornberger outside the courtroom at sentencing to introduce himself. Cavallo

sensed that George wanted to discuss something important, but they did not have

an opportunity to speak further because Government counsel appeared. Cavallo

was “haunted” by what George might have wanted to say to him, so “without

anyone’s advice or encouragement,” he looked up George’s telephone number on

Google, contacted a news reporter to obtain George’s email address, and then sent

a text message to two of George’s telephone numbers on February 19. The next

morning, Cavallo received a text message response from George and a phone call

from George shortly thereafter. Cavallo stated that when he answered the phone,

George, without solicitation, began to excitedly tell him about the things that took

place during jury deliberations, including that a juror named Patricia looked up the

       13
            Oddly, Cavallo argues that the district court should not have criticized Unger’s
affidavit for being “vague and unsupported” because he, Cavallo, would not waive the attorney-
client privilege, thereby freeing up Unger to be more forthcoming. Cavallo does not explain why
he would not do so nor offer an explanation why he did not seek to testify to rebut Juror
George’s testimony. For that reason, it is difficult to understand why he faults the district court
for this self-inflicted evidentiary lapse in his case.
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sentence of Mike Bangasser, who had reportedly received only four months home

detention. 14 Then George asked for Unger’s contact information, and Cavallo gave

George what he thought was Unger’s email address. George asked Cavallo to call

him back to confirm Unger’s contact information, which is why Cavallo called

George that afternoon. Cavallo admits that he encouraged George to call, write, or

email anyone who might have had an interest in the proceedings but contends that

he did not urge George to email Unger. Cavallo learned George had emailed

Unger the next morning on February 21, and he called George that day to tell him

that they could not speak again.

       After hearing and reviewing all this evidence, the district court issued an

order in which it credited George’s sworn testimony about his encounters with

Unger and Cavallo and concluded that the latter had violated the Middle District of

Florida local rule restricting parties’ and attorneys’ contact with jurors, absent

court permission. Indeed, as the court noted, despite Cavallo’s tepid efforts in his

affidavit to discredit George’s testimony, the version of events presented in

Cavallo’s affidavit actually supported George’s testimony that Cavallo contacted


       14
           As it turns out, Juror Patricia could not have been referring to co-conspirator Mike
Bangasser, who, in fact, received a sentence of fifteen months imprisonment—not home
confinement—and who was sentenced six months after the jury returned its verdict in this case.
Instead, the parties now appear to agree that the person whom the juror thought had been
sentenced to house arrest was, in fact, a testifying co-conspirator named Craig Whitehead who
had been charged in a different case, pled guilty, and was sentenced to time served and three
months home detention about five weeks before the conclusion of Cavallo’s trial.
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him “out of the blue” to discuss the case. As a sanction for violating Middle

District of Florida Rule 5.01(d), which prohibits such party-juror communications,

the court excluded George’s email against Cavallo and Hornberger, who are

married and who were represented by the same counsel at trial. The court did not

strike the email against Streinz because neither he nor his counsel were involved in

the rule violation, but it found that any exposure of a juror to the extrinsic

information alleged in the email, if such occurred, was not prejudicial to

Defendants. Accordingly, the court denied all of Defendants’ requests for relief

based on juror misconduct.

B.    Discussion

      Cavallo and Hornberger seek a reversal of their convictions based on the

information about jury deliberations provided by Juror George in Cavallo’s

conversations with George. To the extent that this information was insufficient to

warrant the granting of a new trial, they also contend that the district court should

have conducted a more thorough investigation of the alleged juror misconduct. We

review the denial of a motion for new trial based on alleged juror misconduct for

an abuse of discretion. United States v Venske, 

, 1290 (11th Cir.

2002). Finding no abuse of discretion, we affirm the district court’s denial of

Defendants’ motion for a new trial.


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      1.     Federal Rule of Evidence 606(b)’s Limitations on Judicial Inquiry
             Into Jury Deliberations

      “District courts are subject to very stringent limitations on their authority to

question jurors about their deliberations,” and since 1915 “the Supreme Court has

recognized a near-universal and firmly established common-law rule flatly

prohibiting the use of juror testimony to impeach a verdict.” United States v.

Siegelman, 

, 1185 (11th Cir. 2011) (emphasis in original). Absent

such a prohibition, “[j]urors would be harassed and beset by the defeated party in

an effort to secure from them evidence of facts which might establish misconduct

sufficient to set aside a verdict.” 

(quoting McDonald v. Pless, 

, 267–68 (1915)). To invalidate an undesirable verdict, allegations of juror

misconduct would become commonplace and such scrutiny would discourage “full

and frank discussions in the jury room, jurors’ willingness to return an unpopular

verdict, and the community’s trust in a system that relies on the decisions of

laypeople.” 

(quoting Tanner v. United States, 

, 120–21

(1987)).

      Therefore, in an effort to protect the integrity of the jury system and to

forestall endless attacks on a jury’s verdict, the Federal Rules of Evidence have

codified the common law rule against the admission of a juror’s testimony to

impeach the jury’s verdict. 

. Rule 606(b) provides:

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      (b) During an Inquiry Into the Validity of a Verdict or Indictment.

             (1) Prohibited Testimony or Other Evidence.
      During an inquiry into the validity of a verdict . . . a juror may not
      testify about any statement made or incident that occurred during the
      jury’s deliberations; the effect of anything on that juror’s or another
      juror’s vote; or any juror’s mental processes concerning the
      verdict . . . . The court may not receive a juror’s affidavit or evidence
      of a juror’s statement on these matters.

             (2) Exceptions. A juror may testify about whether:
                 (A) extraneous prejudicial information was improperly
                 brought to the jury’s attention;
                 (B) an outside influence was improperly brought to bear
                 on any juror; or
                 (C) a mistake was made in entering the verdict on the
                 verdict form.

Fed. R. Evid. 606(b).

      In short, except for testimony concerning extraneous prejudicial information

or improper outside influence, Rule 606(b)(1) prohibits a juror from providing

testimony or other evidence about anything that happened or occurred during

deliberations, including a juror’s mental processes or the reasons the jury reached a

particular verdict. With only one exception, the information provided by George

to Cavallo, and then to Cavallo’s attorney, was nothing but a description of the

thought process of jury members—and mostly George’s own thought process—

meaning this information was inadmissible to attack the jury’s verdict. The sole

exception was George’s disclosure that a juror had learned from the internet that


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another co-conspirator who had pled guilty had received only house arrest and no

jail time. 15 Because this information was “extraneous,” and perhaps prejudicial,

Rule 606(b) does not prohibit a juror from testifying about it. Accordingly, the

district court correctly ruled that it was only this last disclosure, to which we now

turn, that was subject to scrutiny by the court.

       2. Violation of Local Rule 5.01(d) by Defendants

       As noted, Rule 606(b) sets out a broad prohibition against questioning jurors

about their deliberations or reasons for a particular verdict, with the exception that

a juror may testify as to whether extraneous prejudicial information was

improperly brought to his attention or outside influence was improperly exerted

against him. There is no allegation of outside influence here, but Defendants have

argued that their verdict should be vacated because the jurors received extraneous

prejudicial information. As a general matter, information is deemed to be

“‘extraneous’ if it derives from a source ‘external’ to the jury. ‘External’ matters

include publicity and information related specifically to the case the jurors are

meant to decide . . . .” Warger v. Shauers, 574 U.S. ___, 

, 529

(2014) (internal citations omitted).




       15
           This may have been what the juror told George, but in fact Whitehead was sentenced
to time served, plus three-months home confinement. 

at n.14.
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      The district court, however, found it inappropriate to explore the allegedly

“extraneous prejudicial information” that may have found its way to George or the

female juror who initially wanted to hang the jury because Cavallo uncovered this

information only by brazenly violating a local court rule that flatly forbade the

contact that Cavallo made with George. We agree with the district court.

      Middle District of Florida Rule 5.01(d) (“Local Rule 5.01(d)”) restricts

attorneys’ and parties’ contacts with jurors absent prior court approval. The rule

provides:

      No attorney or party shall undertake, directly or indirectly, to
      interview any juror after trial in any civil or criminal case except as
      permitted by this Rule. If a party believes that grounds for legal
      challenge to a verdict exist, he may move for an order permitting an
      interview of a juror or jurors to determine whether the verdict is
      subject to the challenge. The motion shall be served within fourteen
      (14) days after rendition of the verdict unless good cause is shown for
      the failure to make the motion within that time. The motion shall state
      the name and address of each juror to be interviewed and the grounds
      for the challenge that the moving party believes may exist. The
      presiding judge may conduct such hearings, if any, as necessary, and
      shall enter an order denying the motion or permitting the interview. If
      the interview is permitted, the Court may prescribe the place, manner,
      conditions, and scope of the interview.

      To translate, neither an attorney nor a party may, directly or indirectly,

attempt to interview a juror after trial unless that person first obtains the court’s

permission to do so. A motion seeking that permission must be filed within

fourteen days after the verdict, absent a showing of good cause for a tardy filing.

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In addition, the motion must state not only the name of the juror to be interviewed,

but also the basis for the request. In ruling on the motion, the district court is

empowered to set limits on the scope or manner of the interview.

      Here, the district court concluded that Cavallo and, to some extent, Unger,

engaged in conduct that violated this rule. As to the court’s conclusion regarding

the conduct of these two, this is a factual finding that we reverse only if clearly

erroneous. See United States v. Floyd, 

, 1348 (11th Cir. 2002).

Further, we accord great deference to a district court’s credibility determinations,

United States v. Clay, 

, 1302 (11th Cir. 2004), and we will not

reverse a district court’s factual finding concerning credibility unless the finding is

“contrary to the laws of nature, or is so inconsistent or improbable on its face that

no reasonable factfinder could accept it.” United States v. Pineiro, 

,

1366 (11th Cir. 2004) (quotations omitted).

      Here, the district court found to be truthful George’s testimony that Cavallo

contacted George, engaged the latter in conversations about the jury’s

deliberations, and told him that counsel Unger wanted George to email her with

this information. The court also credited George’s testimony that Unger had told

George at the time of the sentencing hearing that she would like to ask him




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questions. We do not find the district court’s conclusions on these matters to be

clearly erroneous.

      Nor are we persuaded by Defendants’ argument that the district court should

not have credited George’s testimony without first hearing directly from Cavallo

and Unger, both of whom chose to file affidavits. If Cavallo or Unger wanted to

testify, they should have asked to do so. Had Cavallo requested the opportunity to

contradict George’s testimony with his own testimony, there is no reason to believe

that anyone would have tried to stop him. Moreover, as 

, Cavallo has

explained that he would not waive attorney-client privilege to allow Unger to

testify, which suggests that Cavallo had his own reasons to be reticent about

testifying on this matter and subjecting himself to cross-examination. Perhaps

most significantly, Cavallo’s own affidavit confirms George’s testimony that it was

Cavallo who initiated contact with George about jury deliberations.

      Defendants argue that, even if one accepts as true George’s testimony,

Cavallo’s exchange with George did not violate the local rule, as a legal matter.

Specifically, Defendants argue that Local Rule 5.01(d) prohibits only the

“interviewing” of a juror, but that it does not outlaw merely “communicating” with

a juror, which they contend is all that Cavallo did. We give “great deference to a

district court’s interpretation of its local rules,” Clark v. Hous. Auth. of City of


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Alma, 

, 727 (11th Cir. 1992), and we conclude that Cavallo’s

argument fails to meet the straight-face test. Obviously, the only thing that George

and Cavallo had in common was the trial where George served on the jury that

found Cavallo guilty. Clearly, Cavallo was not interested in discussing the

weather, politics, or sports with George. The jury’s deliberations were the only

topic that would be of interest to him, and, in fact, it appears to be the only topic

that the two men discussed. We find unpersuasive Cavallo’s parsing of the Local

Rule’s description of the conduct that it prohibits, and we concur with the district

court’s conclusion that Cavallo violated the rule.

      Finding no good reason to disturb the district court’s determination that

Cavallo violated Local Rule 5.01(d), then the next question is whether the court’s

striking of evidence procured only through Cavallo’s violation of the rule

constituted a proper sanction for the latter’s breach. On this question, our

precedent squarely supports the district court’s decision. In United States v.

Venske, 

(11th Cir. 2002), a case which also arose out of the Middle

District of Florida, two defendants sought a new trial before the district court,

arguing that jurors had been exposed to prejudicial extrinsic information and

supporting that contention with an affidavit that the court concluded they had

obtained by violating the court’s local rule forbidding contact with jurors, absent


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prior court approval. Because the defendants had “knowingly and intentionally

engaged in a scheme to defy the [local rule],” the district court excluded the

affidavit and refused to conduct an evidentiary hearing on the allegation. 

        We rejected the defendants’ argument challenging the power of a district

court to enact a local rule restricting communications with jurors or to exclude

evidence obtained in violation of such a rule. 

In affirming the district

court’s decision to exclude evidence in the Venske case, we explained the strong

policy interests in preventing the type of conduct engaged in by the defendants

there, and by Defendants here. Those words bear repeating. As we noted, the

judicial system has a “strong interest in protecting jurors from threats and needless

harassment from unsuccessful parties.” 

Another interest is the

need to preserve finality in a jury’s verdict. Because jurors are routinely instructed

that their deliberations are secret and that they will never have to explain their

verdict to anyone, a process that gives losing parties free rein to contact jurors “at

will in an effort to . . . upset the jury’s verdict,” 

arguably functions as a

bait-and-switch that undermines the integrity of the court’s assurances to the jury.

At bottom, many jurors would “no doubt feel threatened or intimidated” by

interrogation leveled at them by a losing party, and a rule that “effectively deters


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such contacts . . . preserves the integrity of our judicial process.” 

concluded in Venske, we likewise decide here that, in adjudicating a motion for

new trial based on the jury’s alleged exposure to extrinsic information, the district

court properly struck evidence that was obtained in violation of the local rule

restricting communications between a party and jurors.

       In addition, the district court did not abuse its discretion in excluding the

evidence against Hornberger, as well as Cavallo, even though Hornberger did not

personally contact George. The district court concluded that, in sleuthing to

uncover secret information about jury deliberations, Cavallo was also acting on

behalf of his wife and co-defendant, Paula Hornberger,16 and had he been

successful, Hornberger would have similarly benefited. Moreover, Unger, who

purportedly solicited George’s email conveying information about the jury’s

deliberations, was joint trial counsel for both Cavallo and Hornberger.17 See

       16
           Cavallo also acted on Hornberger’s behalf when he asked the court for leniency in
setting her sentence. See discussion infra.
       17
           As noted, because Streinz was not involved in the decision to contact George in
violation of the local rule, the district court did consider the information contained in George’s
email as to defendant Streinz, but ultimately decided that the extraneous evidence learned by the
female juror did not prejudice him or any of the defendants. The district court noted that, if
anything, the extrinsic information was helpful to the defendants. The Government joins in that
assessment, noting that the defense had emphasized in closing argument that the co-conspirator-
witness was testifying pursuant to a cooperation agreement; had admitted that he was hoping for
a reduced sentence; and was therefore motivated to shade his testimony in the Government’s
direction. Confirmation that this witness had, in fact, received a lenient sentence was helpful to
the defense and bolstered its argument. There is resonance to the Government’s argument, but as
we have reversed Streinz’s convictions on another 

, we do not need to resolve this
question.
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Cuevas v. United States, 

, 752–53 (7th Cir. 2003) (finding that

evidence of juror misconduct was properly excluded where the defendant’s family

members hired a private investigator to interview jurors in violation of a local rule

prohibiting juror-party communication). In summary, we conclude that the district

court did not err in denying a motion for new trial, or further evidentiary hearing,

based on Defendants’ allegation of extrinsic influence on the jury.

       V. SUFFICIENCY OF THE EVIDENCE AGAINST CAVALLO

      Having made the appropriate motions for a judgment of acquittal at trial,

Cavallo likewise argues on appeal that the evidence was insufficient to convict him

on Count 28: the sole substantive count on which he was convicted. Count 28

charged that, when applying for a loan from Washington Mutual to purchase a

home at 3550 Kenmore Drive, Cavallo knowingly made false statements to

influence the actions of an FDIC-insured lender, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1014.

Specifically, the indictment charged that Cavallo falsely claimed that he would use

the home as his primary residence and that his monthly income was over $27,000,

when in fact his income was much lower and he planned to rent out the home.

      To convict Cavallo on this count, the Government was required to prove

beyond a reasonable doubt that: “(1) [he] knowingly made a false statement or

report; and (2) he did so for the purpose of influencing the conduct of a federally-


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insured bank with respect to an application, advance, commitment, or loan.”

United States v. Hill, 

, 857 (11th Cir. 2011). We review de novo

sufficiency of the evidence claims, “viewing all the evidence in the light most

favorable to the government and drawing all reasonable inferences and credibility

choices in favor of the jury’s verdict.” United States v. Taylor, 

,

1026 (11th Cir. 2007). We will affirm a conviction if “any rational trier of fact

could have found the essential elements of the crime beyond a reasonable doubt.”

United States v. Hunt, 

, 1270 (11th Cir. 1999) (internal quotations

omitted) (emphasis in original). After reviewing the evidence, we conclude that

the Government presented sufficient evidence to prove the above elements as to

Count 28.

      At trial, Hornberger testified that the Kenmore Drive property was used as a

rental property, not as a residence, thereby establishing the first alleged

misstatement. As to Cavallo’s income being less than $27,000 per month

($324,000 annually), Cavallo and Hornberger’s 2005 and 2006 joint income tax

returns showed that they earned much less than $100,000 each year. In fact, their

2006 tax return stated that their combined wages were only $23,243, which yielded

zero taxable income.




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      Despite the above facts, Cavallo certified several times that all of the

information he provided in connection with the loan application was accurate. On

February 24, 2006, he signed an Occupancy Misrepresentation and Nondisclosure

Affidavit and Agreement, which stated on the first page that “[f]alse swearing may

constitute perjury under applicable laws, and misrepresentations in th[e] document

[might] constitute fraud.” He acknowledged in the affidavit that if a lender issued

him a loan, the lender would do so “in reliance upon [his] representations,

warranties and agreements stated [t]herein and that [he was making] such

representations and warranties in order to induce the Lender to make the Loan.”

Based on Cavallo’s false representations in multiple documents, Washington

Mutual Bank loaned Cavallo $256,000 to purchase 3550 Kenmore Drive.

      Cavallo argues, however, that proof of the falsity of statements about his

income and intended residency are insufficient to prove him guilty because the

Government failed to prove that: (1) he personally signed the loan application; (2)

he was aware of the loan application’s typed misrepresentations relating to income

and intent to occupy the home as a primary residence; or (3) given the fact that the

application was filled out with a mortgage broker rather than the FDIC-insured

Washington Mutual, he willfully influenced an FDIC-insured institution.




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      As to his claim that the Government failed to prove that he signed the

pertinent loan documents, Cavallo faults the Government for failing to call a

handwriting expert or to prove that he was in the city where the documents were

signed on the relevant date. But the Government was not required to produce a

handwriting expert. See United States v. Bell, 

, 276 (11th Cir. 1987)

(finding that a jury is competent to compare signatures and draw its own

conclusions); see also Fed. R. Evid. 901(b)(3) (recognizing that the trier of fact is

competent to compare authenticated samples). The Government presented

numerous documents containing Cavallo’s known signature, including two driver’s

licenses, seven tax returns, and other notarized documents. Through a comparison

of these known signatures to those on the fraudulent documents, there was ample

evidence from which the jury could conclude that the signatures on the fraudulent

documents belonged to Cavallo.

      As to his argument that the Government should have affirmatively shown

that he actually read the documents that he signed, Cavallo relies on United States

v. Phillips, 

, 656 (7th Cir. 2013) (en banc), which he says held that if

a defendant signs a loan document without reading it or knowing its contents, he

cannot be held to have adopted the false statements in it pursuant to 18 U.S.C.

§ 1014. But Cavallo’s reliance on this out-of-circuit case is misplaced. Phillips


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did not concern a sufficiency of the evidence issue. Instead, it addressed an

evidentiary ruling preventing a defendant from testifying that, when completing a

loan application, she relied on a mortgage broker’s instruction; this testimony, the

Seventh Circuit ruled, should have been allowed because it potentially negated the

defendant’s “intent to influence.” 

did not testify, and no

evidence suggested that he failed to read the relevant documents before signing

them. To the contrary, he was an experienced real estate investor who participated

in obtaining loans for numerous properties. From the evidence presented, a

reasonable jury could conclude that Cavallo was aware of the contents of the

documents he signed.

      Finally, because he provided the false information to a mortgage broker, not

directly to a covered institution, Cavallo argues that the Government failed to

prove that he had acted with the purpose of influencing an FDIC-insured

institution. We have held, however, that to prove that a defendant made a false

statement for purposes of influencing a covered institution, the Government does

not have to show that the defendant directly presented the document containing the

false statement to that institution. Instead, the Government need only prove that

the defendant was on “notice sufficient to create a reasonable expectation that the

statement would reach an institution of the type included in the statute.” United


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States v. Greene, 

, 1517 (11th Cir. 1989) (quoting United States v.

Lentz, 

, 71 (5th Cir. 1975)).

       Obviously, one submits a loan application for the purpose of persuading a

bank to approve and issue a loan. And here Cavallo signed multiple documents

that specifically identified “Washington Mutual Bank, FA” as the “Lender.” Thus,

a jury could have found that Cavallo had a reasonable expectation that his loan

application, containing the above-described misrepresentations, would reach

Washington Mutual. Accordingly, we AFFIRM Cavallo’s conviction on Count

28.

       In summary, we reject Cavallo and Hornberger’s challenges to the validity

of their convictions,18 and we affirm those convictions.

                  VI. CAVALLO’S APPEAL OF HIS SENTENCE

A.     Background and Standard of Review

       Following review of the presentence investigation report (PSR) and a

sentencing hearing, the district court concluded that Cavallo’s total offense level




       18
           Defendants have also argued that the district court erred (1) by failing to hold an
evidentiary hearing following Defendants’ complaint that FBI agents had intimidated two
defense witnesses that Defendants intended to call, and whom they ultimately did call to testify,
and (2) by holding sidebar conferences in violation of Defendants’ right to a public trial. We
find both claims to be without merit.

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was 34, 19 which, with a criminal history category of I, resulted in a Guidelines

range of 151 to 188 months. The district court granted Cavallo a downward

variance and sentenced him to 120-months imprisonment, which variance

translates to an approximate two-level reduction.

       On appeal, Cavallo argues that the district court incorrectly calculated the

amount of loss attributable to him under the Sentencing Guidelines. As to

challenges not involving a calculation of the Guidelines, he contends that the

district court impermissibly considered his sex when imposing his sentence and

that the court imposed a disparately high sentence, as compared to the sentences of

his co-defendants.

       We review the reasonableness of a sentence for an abuse of discretion using

a two-step process. United States v. Cubero, 

, 892 (11th Cir. 2014),

cert. denied, 

(2014). We first look to whether the district court

committed any significant procedural error, such as miscalculating the advisory

Guideline range or selecting a sentence based on clearly erroneous facts. 

PSR reached this calculation by starting with a base offense level of 7
(§ 2B1.1(a)(1)); adding 20 levels for loss exceeding $7,000,000 (§ 2B1.1(b)(1)(K)); adding two
levels for making a misrepresentation or other fraudulent action during a bankruptcy proceeding
(§ 2B.1.1(b)(9)(B)); adding two levels for use of “sophisticated means” (§ 2B1.1(b)(10)(C)); and
finally adding three levels because Cavallo was a manager or supervisor during the conspiracy
that involved five or more participants (§ 3B1.1(b)).

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       Then, we examine whether the sentence is substantively reasonable in light

of the totality of the circumstances and the 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a) factors.20 

challenging a sentence has the burden to show that the sentence is

unreasonable. United States v. Pugh, 

, 1189 (11th Cir. 2008). We

will reverse only if “left with the definite and firm conviction that the district court

committed a clear error of judgment in weighing the § 3553(a) factors by arriving

at a sentence that lies outside the range of reasonable sentences dictated by the

facts of the case.” 

(quotation marks omitted).

       After carefully considering the record, we affirm Cavallo’s sentence.

B.     Loss Calculation

       The Government bears the burden of establishing the loss attributable to the

defendant by a preponderance of the evidence, and we review a district court’s

determination of monetary loss for clear error. United States v. Barrington, 

, 1197 (11th Cir. 2011). The Sentencing Guidelines do not require a

precise determination of loss. 

sentencing court need only make a

reasonable estimate of the loss, given the available information.” 

       20
           The § 3553(a) factors include: (1) the nature and circumstances of the offense and the
history and characteristics of the defendant; (2) the need to reflect the seriousness of the offense,
to promote respect for the law, and to provide just punishment for the offense; (3) the need for
deterrence; (4) the need to protect the public; (5) the need to provide the defendant with needed
educational or vocational training or medical care; (6) the kinds of sentences available; (7) the
Sentencing Guidelines range; (8) pertinent policy statements of the Sentencing Commission; (9)
the need to avoid unwarranted sentencing disparities; and (10) the need to provide restitution to
victims. 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a).
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calculated as “the greater of actual loss or intended loss.” U.S.S.G. § 2B1.1 cmt.

n.3(A). “Intended loss” is the pecuniary harm that was intended to result from the

offense. 

n.3(A)(ii). “Actual loss” is the reasonably foreseeable

pecuniary harm that resulted from the offense, which is the correct standard in this

case. 

n.3(A)(i). The Guidelines acknowledge that a sentencing judge is

in a unique position to assess the evidence and estimate the loss, and therefore “the

court’s loss determination is entitled to appropriate deference.” 

n.3(C).

We address each of Cavallo’s loss calculation arguments in turn and find no clear

error.

         1.    Consideration of Acquitted Conduct

         First, Cavallo complains that the district court included in its loss

calculations the loss for properties named in counts on which he was acquitted. As

noted, Cavallo was convicted of conspiracy and one substantive count—Count

28—that was related to the 3350 Kenmore Drive property. He was acquitted of all

other substantive counts in which he was charged. In calculating relevant conduct

for all defendants in the case, the PSR identified twenty-nine properties involved in

the fraudulent conduct that lay at the heart of the conspiracy. The PSR held

Cavallo accountable for losses attributable to ten of these properties. One of these

properties was the subject of Count 28, on which he was convicted; seven


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properties were named in substantive counts on which he had been acquitted; two

others were not included in any substantive counts in which Cavallo was named.

All but one of the properties were listed in overt acts in the conspiracy charge.

Adding together the loss on each of these ten properties, the PSR calculated the

total amount of loss attributable to Cavallo as $7,454,210.74. This loss figure

added seven levels to Cavallo’s offense level. See U.S.S.G. § 2B.1.1.

      The methodology in calculating loss was as follows. If the home had been

sold, the PSR calculated loss by subtracting the sale price from the loan amount. If

the home had not yet been sold, the PSR looked to the market value of the property

at the time of sentencing, as set by the Sarasota County Property Appraiser, and

subtracted that market value from the loan amount.

      In objecting to the loss calculation, Cavallo offered at sentencing a general

objection to the inclusion of loss amounts for properties named in counts on which

he had been acquitted. In the more specific sentencing memorandum submitted

prior to the sentencing hearing, he contended that the Government had failed to

prove by a preponderance of the evidence his involvement in relevant fraudulent

conduct concerning any property other than the Kenmore Drive property. The

district court explicitly adopted the facts contained in the PSR, which established a

factual basis for inclusion of all relevant conduct attributed to Cavallo, and


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accepted the PSR’s loss calculation. Moreover, the district judge had done more

than just read a presentence report. Having presided over the three-month trial in

this case, she was well-equipped to evaluate the evidence.

      Cavallo has offered no persuasive argument to undermine a conclusion that

the Government proved all the losses attributed to him by at least a preponderance

of the evidence. Indeed, he does not try to make such an argument on appeal.

Moreover, he acknowledges case authority that permits a judge, in determining

relevant conduct, to rely on conduct for which a defendant has been acquitted. In

particular, he notes that the Supreme Court has held that “a jury’s verdict of

acquittal does not prevent the sentencing court from considering conduct

underlying the acquitted charge, so long as that conduct has been proved by a

preponderance of the evidence.” United States v. Watts, 

, 157 (1997).

Likewise, this Court has noted that “[u]nder our long-standing precedent, relevant

conduct of which a defendant was acquitted [] may be taken into account in

sentencing for the offense of conviction, as long as the Government proves the

acquitted conduct relied upon by a preponderance of the evidence.” United States

v. Faust, 

, 1347 (11th Cir. 2006) (alteration adopted and internal

quotations omitted) (quoting United States v. Barakat, 

, 1452 (11th

Cir. 1997)).


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      Instead of arguing that a preponderance of the evidence did not support the

district’s court inclusion of these loss amounts, Cavallo argues for the first time on

appeal that the district court should have used a clear and convincing standard, not

a preponderance of the evidence standard, in calculating loss amount. We review

arguments not raised before the district court only for plain error. United States v.

Perez, 

, 583 (11th Cir. 2011), cert. denied, 

(2012).

As to the substance of his argument, Cavallo notes that some circuits have required

use of a clear and convincing evidence standard before considering acquitted

conduct in certain circumstances. He cites Watts, in which the Supreme Court

recognized a circuit split concerning “whether, in extreme circumstances, relevant

conduct that would dramatically increase the sentence must be based on clear and

convincing 

.

      Yet, our Court has never held that a clear and convincing standard applies to

consideration of acquitted conduct. Further, “[i]t is the law of this circuit that . . .

there can be no plain error where there is no precedent from the Supreme Court or

this Court directly resolving [an issue].” United States v. Lejarde-Rada, 

, 1291 (11th Cir. 2003). There being no controlling precedent resolving

Cavallo’s present claim, the district court’s error, if any, on the standard of proof is




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not “obvious” or “clear under current law.” United States v. Humphrey, 

, 588 (11th Cir. 1999). Thus, any error is not plain.

       We also note the aptness of a plain error standard here. First, as far as we

know, the district court may well have concluded that the loss evidence here

satisfied not only a preponderance standard, but also a clear and convincing

standard. But because Cavallo never raised this as an issue below, the district

court was not prompted to articulate whether it was employing a preponderance or

a more exacting standard. And had Cavallo raised this issue, the district court

would have then been on notice to indicate whether the evidence would have also

met the higher standard of proof.

       In summary, the district court did not err in considering the above relevant

conduct in calculating Cavallo’s loss amount. 21

       2.     Ridgewood Lane and Contendo Drive Properties

       Cavallo next contends that the district court erred by including in the actual

loss calculation two properties on which he was not charged in a substantive count:




       21
          Cavallo also contends that the district court committed error under United States v.
Booker, 

(2005), and Apprendi v. New Jersey, 

(2000), when it failed to
group and calculate Cavallo’s offender score for Count 1 separately from his offender score for
Count 28. This claim also fails. Cavallo faced a statutory maximum of five years’ imprisonment
on Count 1 and thirty years’ imprisonment on Count 28. See 18 U.S.C. §§ 371, 1014. The court
sentenced him to serve five years on Count 1 and a concurrent term of ten years on Count 28.
Both terms fall within the statutory maximum authorized by the jury’s verdict.
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1516 Ridgewood Lane and 927 Contendo Drive.22 Removal of these two

properties from the calculation would be helpful to Cavallo because their inclusion

raised the total loss amount over the $7 million threshold, causing Cavallo’s

offender score to increase by two additional levels. See U.S.S.G. § 2B1.1(b)(1)(J),

(K). Without the inclusion of these two properties, his offense level and

Guidelines range would have decreased to a level 32 and a 121–151 month range,

respectively.

       Cavallo contends that he was tied to these properties only as a matter of

“guilt by association.” But Cavallo was convicted of conspiracy to commit wire

fraud, which means that the evidence at trial showed more than mere association,

as a general matter. As to these specific properties, Richard Bobka, Cavallo’s

brother, participated in fraudulent transactions with respect to both properties,

which Cavallo does not dispute. Cavallo and Bobka operated as partners in their

real estate investments, which included the Contendo and Ridgewood properties.

Cavallo actively took part in managing these two properties through his partnership

with his brother, and the evidence showed that Cavallo, Bobka, and Hornberger

shared a bank account through which they jointly funneled money for the

transactions. Indeed, Hornberger referred to Bobka as Cavallo’s “business


       22
          Conduct regarding these two properties was included in overt acts in the conspiracy
count on which Cavallo was convicted.
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partner.” Moreover, Cavallo and Hornberger reported ownership of both

properties and the expenses incurred in renting out each property on their 2006 and

2007 joint tax returns. Based on this evidence, the court did not err in attributing

the losses stemming from the Ridgewood and Contendo properties to Cavallo as

being within the scope of the criminal activity that Cavallo had agreed to

undertake.

      3.     Foreseeability and Timing of Property Valuations

      Cavallo also contends that it was not “reasonably foreseeable” to him that

lenders, stuck with these properties on whose loans Cavallo and his cohorts had

defaulted, would suffer such large losses because he could not have anticipated that

the real estate market would take a sharp downturn, thereby causing real estate

values to fall. This is a rather audacious position to take, given that Cavallo’s

participation in fraudulent activities involving over thirty properties in the Sarasota

area contributed to the very economic downturn he claims was unforeseeable.

Moreover, “[u]nlike the application note regarding the determination of loss, the

application note regarding credits against loss does not speak in terms of

foreseeability. The sentencing guidelines, therefore, require foreseeability of the

loss of the unpaid principal, but do not require foreseeability with respect to the

future value of the collateral.” United States v. Wendlandt, 

, 394 (6th


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Cir. 2013) (citation omitted) (emphasis in original); see U.S.S.G. § 2B1.1 cmt.

n.3(A), (E).

      Cavallo further argues that he could not have reasonably foreseen losses to

the successors in interest of original lenders. Yet, he signed a host of documents in

which he acknowledged that the documents would bind any successors or assigns

of the original lenders and that subsequent holders of the notes or mortgages would

rely on the truthfulness of his statements. In short, we find no merit in Cavallo’s

argument that he could not have foreseen the possibility of large financial losses as

a result of his and his co-conspirators’ long-term fraudulent activities or the

possibility that someone other than the original lender might someday be left

holding the bag.

      Cavallo’s final argument also fails. He contends that because he withdrew

from the conspiracy in August 2007, the district court should have used property

values in effect at that time to calculate loss, not property values in effect at the

time of sentencing. Use of the former would have resulted in a lower loss amount

because property values in 2007 had not sunk to the depths they had reached by the

time of conviction. Yet, neither the Guidelines nor common sense supports

Cavallo’s argument. Guidelines commentary that took effect within one week

after Cavallo’s sentencing hearing provided that, for purposes of calculating loss of


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undisposed collateral, the sentencing court should use the fair market value of that

collateral as of the date on which guilt was established, which here would be the

date of the guilty verdict. See U.S.S.G. § 2B1.1 cmt. n.3(E)(iii) (Nov. 1, 2012). 23

Commentary in effect at the time of Cavallo’s sentencing hearing was no more

helpful. This earlier iteration provided that the fair market value should be

assessed at the time of sentencing. See U.S.S.G. § 2B1.1 cmt. n.3(E)(ii) (Nov. 1,

2011). The commentary was amended, in part, to avoid the need for a probation

officer to continuously reassess property values in the months leading up to the

sentencing date. See Amendments to the Sentencing Guidelines, Policy

Statements, and Official Commentary at 7 (effective Nov. 1, 2012). Cavallo has

not argued that there was a meaningful difference in the values of the property

between the date of his conviction, on May 3, 2012, and the date of his sentencing

hearing, on October 26, 2012.

       Further, the evidence does not support Cavallo’s theory that he withdrew

from the conspiracy in August 2007. To establish withdrawal, a defendant must

       23
          [I]n the case of a fraud involving a mortgage loan, if the collateral has not been
       disposed of by the time of sentencing, use the fair market value of the collateral as
       of the date on which the guilt of the defendant has been established . . . . In such a
       case, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that the most recent tax assessment
       value of the collateral is a reasonable estimate of the fair market value . . . .

U.S.S.G. § 2B1.1 cmt. n.3(E)(iii) (Nov. 1, 2012).


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prove: “(1) that he has taken affirmative steps, inconsistent with the objectives of

the conspiracy, to disavow or to defeat the objectives of the conspiracy; and (2)

that he made a reasonable effort to communicate those acts to his co-conspirators

or that he disclosed the scheme to law enforcement authorities.” United States v.

Starrett, 

, 1550 (11th Cir. 1995). Cavallo took neither of these steps.

He contends that he withdrew from the conspiracy by moving away from Sarasota

to Washington and filing for bankruptcy, but that is not enough. Cf. United States

v. Dabbs, 

, 1083 (11th Cir. 1998) (finding that a defendant had not

withdrawn from the fraud conspiracy where his “argument rest[ed] solely on his

physical distance from, rather than his repudiation of, the actions of his co-

conspirators”). Further, the evidence showed that during the bankruptcy

proceeding, he and Hornberger hid their involvement with fifteen of the properties

obtained during the course of the conspiracy. Finally, that Cavallo may have

ceased his day-to-day support of the conspiracy when he moved across the country

does not erase his responsibility for losses that resulted from his own prior criminal

conduct. Once the fraudulent acts that led to the ultimate losses on these properties

were complete, it did not help the victims a whit whether Cavallo chose to stay in

town or not. For all these reasons, the district court did not clearly err in making a




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reasonable estimate of the loss amount for purposes of calculating Cavallo’s

Guidelines score.

C.    Non-Guidelines Challenges to Sentence

      Cavallo contends that his sentence is substantively unreasonable because it

is contrary to 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a)(6), which requires the sentencing court to

consider “the need to avoid unwarranted sentence disparities among defendants

with similar records who have been found guilty of similar conduct.” We review

the reasonableness of a sentence under a deferential abuse of discretion. See

United States v. Pugh, 

, 1191 (11th Cir. 2008). The party

challenging the sentence has the burden of establishing that the sentence was

unreasonable. See 

We may “set aside a sentence only if we determine,

after giving a full measure of deference to the sentencing judge, that the sentence

imposed truly is unreasonable.” United States v. Irey, 

, 1191 (11th

Cir. 2010) (en banc), cert. denied, 

(2011). We determine whether

a sentence is substantively reasonable in light of the totality of the circumstances

and the § 3553(a) factors. 

court must impose a sentence that is

“sufficient, but not greater than necessary, to comply with the purposes” listed in

§ 3553(a)(2), which include the need for the sentence to reflect the seriousness of

the offense, to promote respect for the law, to provide just punishment for the


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offense, to deter criminal conduct, and to protect the public from the defendant’s

future criminal conduct. See 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a)(2)(A)–(C). The sentencing court

must also consider the nature and circumstances of the offense, the history and

characteristics of the defendant, the kinds of sentences available, the applicable

Guideline range, the need to avoid unwarranted sentencing disparities, and the

need to provide restitution to victims. See 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a)(1), (3)–(7).

      Cavallo argues that because his sentence is harsher than the sentences

imposed on many of his co-conspirators, it is non-compliant with one of the factors

that a court is supposed to consider in imposing sentence: the need to avoid

unwarranted sentencing disparity, as set out in § 3553(a)(6). However, we have

stated that “[d]isparity between the sentences imposed on codefendants is generally

not an appropriate basis for relief on appeal.” United States v. Regueiro, 

, 1325–26 (11th Cir. 2001). Although Regueiro is a pre-Booker decision, the

circumstances of the present case provide no good reason for us to depart from the

above principle.

      First, for purposes of § 3553(a)(6), a defendant who cooperates with the

Government and pleads guilty is not “similarly situated” to his co-defendant who

proceeds to trial. United States v. Docampo, 

, 1101 (11th Cir. 2009).

Thus, there is no unwarranted disparity even when a cooperating defendant


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receives a “substantially shorter” sentence than a defendant who goes to trial. 

three of Cavallo’s co-defendants could be considered “similarly

situated” to him: Richard Bobka, Streinz, and Hornberger. Bobka pled guilty four

days into trial and received a 180-month sentence, which is higher than Cavallo’s

120-month sentence. Streinz received a 60-month sentence, which was the

statutory maximum for his sole conspiracy count of conviction. See 18 U.S.C.

§ 371. Finally, while there is a large gap between Cavallo’s sentence and that of

Hornberger—Cavallo received a ten-year sentence and Hornberger received a one-

year sentence—Hornberger’s lenient sentence was at the behest of Cavallo, who

took full responsibility for Hornberger’s involvement and requested mercy for her

so that she could care for their minor son. Surely, Cavallo cannot seriously claim

now that he wishes the court had imposed a tougher sentence on his wife, just so

their two sentences would be more in line. If there is any “unwarranted disparity”

between their sentences, it was invited by Cavallo. See United States v. Brannan,

, 1306 (11th Cir. 2009) (explaining that it is “common sense [] that

where a party invites the trial court to commit error, he cannot later cry foul on

appeal”); see also United States v. Parikh, 

, 695 (11th Cir. 1988)

(holding that defense counsel invited the court’s error when he asked Government

witness to relay hearsay).


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       Similarly without merit is Cavallo’s contention that the district court

impermissibly considered his sex when imposing his sentence: an issue that he did

not raise with the district court, and which we review only for plain error. United

States v. Bacon, 

, 777 (11th Cir. 2010). An individual’s sex is an

impermissible factor under the Sentencing Guidelines, U.S.S.G. § 5H1.10, and a

sentence “can be unreasonable, regardless of length, if it was substantially affected

by the consideration of impermissible factors.” United States v. Clay, 

, 745 (11th Cir. 2007).

       The present claim arises out of the district judge’s sympathetic response to

remarks that Cavallo had made during his allocution, when he took responsibility

for his wife’s involvement and asked the court to show her mercy. 24 Later, when

she was about to impose sentence, the judge complimented Cavallo on his

solicitude for his wife, commenting that Cavallo comes “from the old school”

where “the man took the hit so that the lady in his life did not.” This remark,

Cavallo argues, suggested that the judge was taking into account his sex in

imposing sentence. We disagree. Clearly, this sentencing hearing had to be one of

the lowest points in Cavallo’s life. The judge’s acknowledgment that he had

       24
            Cavallo told the court that he took “full responsibility for [Hornberger] and why she’s
in this courtroom.” He also stated that she “trusted family members. And that is why she’s here.
That’s the only reason she’s in this room. And she trusted me and I failed her, Your Honor . . . .
I failed this woman here . . . . I don’t know what your plan is, but, please, I want my wife to be
at home with her son.” Cavallo said he was “owning up” and “taking responsibility” and asked
the court to impose a more lenient sentence on Hornberger because their son “needs his mom.”
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positive character traits, notwithstanding his criminal conduct, was a gesture of

kindness, not an act of sex discrimination. Nothing in the judge’s comments

suggested that she was sentencing him more harshly because he is a man. To the

contrary, the court granted him a two-level downward variance from his

Guidelines range. In short, the court did not impermissibly consider Cavallo’s sex

in imposing sentence.

      For all the above reasons, we conclude that Cavallo has failed to show that

his 120-month sentence is substantively unreasonable.

                          VII. RESTITUTION ORDER

      Pursuant to the Mandatory Victims Restitution Act (“MVRA”), persons

convicted of certain offenses are required to make full restitution to an identifiable

victim who has suffered a direct or proximate pecuniary loss. See 18 U.S.C.

§ 3663A(a)(1)–(2). The purpose of restitution “is not [] to provide a windfall for

crime victims but rather to ensure that victims, to the greatest extent possible, are

made whole for their losses.” United States v. Huff, 

, 1249 (11th

Cir. 2010) (internal quotations omitted). We review the legality of a restitution

order de novo and the factual findings underlying the restitution order for clear

error. See United States v. Rodriguez, 

, 1260 (11th Cir. 2014).




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       Hornberger and Cavallo challenge the amount of restitution imposed by the

district court. At sentencing, the district court ordered restitution in the amount of

$13,229,100. 25 This number reflected the face amount of all loans for the ten

properties attributed to Defendants. Unlike the court’s loss calculation, the court’s

restitution computation did not reflect any credits against loss for the proceeds of

properties that had been sold or for the current fair market value of properties not

yet sold. Because the loss calculation for Guidelines’ purposes did properly factor

in those credits, that loss figure was only $7,454,210.74, which was about $6

million less than the amount of restitution imposed.

       This is a striking difference, and one we find not to be justified by either the

law or the facts of this case. A restitution award under 18 U.S.C. § 3664 must be

based on the loss that a victim actually suffers, and the Government bears the

burden of proving that loss. See 18 U.S.C. § 3664(e); 

. To

ensure that a victim is compensated only for its actual loss, the court must deduct,

as an offset, any value that the victim may have derived from the fraudulent

scheme. 

. Otherwise, the victim will receive a windfall, 

contend happened here.


       25
            Actually, the restitution amounts differ slightly between the two defendants, even
though the district court indicated that the number should be the same. The court imposed
restitution on Hornberger in the amount of $13,229,100 in both its oral pronouncement and its
written judgment. For Cavallo, the oral pronouncement and the written judgment set his amount
of restitution at $13,228,861.74.
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       Proving actual loss for restitution purposes is largely the same as proving

actual loss for Guidelines’ loss calculation purposes. See United States v. Futrell,

, 1290 (11th Cir. 2000) (rejecting argument that Government’s

burden to prove loss amount under the MVRA “is more exacting than its burden

under the Sentencing Guidelines”). And where the loss arises out of a fraudulent

mortgage transaction, the Guidelines make clear how one calculates that actual

loss. First, if the property that has been pledged as collateral for the loan has been

sold, the amount recovered from that sale shall be deducted from the amount of the

loan. U.S.S.G. § 2B1.1 cmt. n.3(E)(ii) (Nov. 1, 2011). If the property has not been

sold by the time of sentencing, one looks to the most recent tax assessment to

determine fair market value, 26 and then subtracts that fair market value from the

loan balance. 

a typical case where a defendant’s loss amount under the

Guidelines is determined by a calculation of actual loss, 27 the restitution figure


       26
           Although the Guidelines provide that there is a rebuttable presumption that the most
recent tax assessment is a reasonable estimate of the fair market value, a sentencing court may
consider factors that rebut the aptness of the tax assessment as a proxy for fair market value.
§ 2B1.1 cmt. n.3(E)(iii) (Nov. 1, 2012).
       27
          However, when intended loss—as opposed to actual loss—is used to calculate the loss
amount for Guidelines’ purposes, the restitution amount will presumably be less than the
Guidelines’ loss amount. See 

–49 (noting that a court “could find that a
defendant intended a large amount of loss for sentencing purposes, but then order a much-
reduced amount in restitution in light of the actual losses suffered by the victims”) (quoting
United States v. Allen, 

, 396–97 (7th Cir. 2008)). This is so because the Guidelines
provide that loss is the greater of intended loss or actual loss. See § 2B1.1 cmt. n.3(A)(i)–(ii).
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should usually 28 be the same as the loss amount. 

. Yet,

although the district court here properly based its Guidelines’ calculations on

actual loss, it then ordered restitution in an amount exceeding actual loss by

approximately $6 million. The district court was aware of this issue. It recognized

that the restitution amount did not accurately reflect actual loss, and, apparently for

that reason, the written judgment included a statement that “[t]he defendant shall

receive credit for any principal paid on loans and credit for any proceeds from sale

of property.” It is not clear why the court did not go ahead and enter the actual loss

numbers that had already been determined at the sentencing. Whatever the reason,

the MVRA requires the district court at sentencing, or at a later hearing,29 to

determine the amount of loss suffered by victims. See 18 U.S.C. § 3663A(b).




So, by definition, if intended loss is the driver of the loss computation, that means it was
necessarily greater than the actual loss, and actual loss is the determiner of the amount of
restitution.
       28
            One exception to this general rule could occur when a court concludes that a victim’s
actual loss includes pre-judgment interest. The Guidelines explicitly exclude “interest of any
kind” from the calculation of loss. U.S.S.G. § 2B1.1 cmt. n.3(D)(i). Yet, actual loss for purposes
of restitution “may” include pre-judgment interest. 

n.4 (citing United
States v. Smith, 

, 626 (9th Cir. 1991)). Here, the record does not indicate that pre-
judgment interest was considered in computing the restitution figure.
       29
           Pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 3663(d)(5), where the appropriate amount of restitution is not
ascertainable at the time of sentencing, a district court may postpone the determination of
restitution for a period not to exceed ninety days. United States v. Rodriguez, 

,
1260 (11th Cir. 2014).
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There is no indication that an amended order has even been issued providing

Defendants with the appropriate credits.30

       Because the restitution amount ordered by the district court does not take

into account the value of the collateral properties to the victims, it does not

represent the actual loss to the victims, but instead confers a windfall on them. See

. For that reason, we conclude that the district court clearly

erred in its imposition of restitution on Defendants. We reverse and vacate that

part of the district court’s judgment ordering restitution and remand for the latter to

enter a restitution amount that reflects the actual loss to the victims. 31

                                   VIII. CONCLUSION

       For the reasons stated above, we REVERSE Streinz’s conviction and

remand for a new trial. We AFFIRM Cavallo and Hornberger’s convictions and



       30
           The Government does not disagree that the restitution amount set out in the judgment
greatly exceeds the actual loss suffered by the victims, but it argues that Defendants did not
object to the court handling the order of restitution as it did. But when the court first announced
that the restitution amount would be over $13 million, counsel for Defendants did point out the
court’s error: “Excuse me. None of us know where you got that 13 million. We’re looking at a
7,450,000 . . . .” The court seemingly acknowledged the correctness of counsel’s observation,
and said that this would be taken care of in the “body” (presumably, the body of the written
judgment). The written order did not, however, incorporate the actual loss figures, but repeated
the same raw loan figures, with no appropriate credits to yield an actual loss amount. Defendants
are appealing that written judgment.
       31
           Defendants have also complained that it is not clear which financial institutions were
the appropriate victims for restitution purposes, given the complicated and confusing purchase
history regarding some of the original lenders. The district court will be issuing a new restitution
order, and we leave to that court the task of sorting out the identities of the victims to be made
whole.
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sentences, except that we VACATE and REMAND that part of the judgment

ordering restitution.

      AFFIRMED in part, REVERSED in part, VACATED and

REMANDED in part, with instructions.




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