The Issue Whether Petitioner's application for certification as a minority business enterprise should be granted.
Findings Of Fact Virginia Valletti, an American woman, within the meaning of Section 288.703, Florida Statutes, holds 75 percent of the stock of Petitioner, Commercial Air Tech, Inc., (Commercial Air). Sam Valletti, the husband of Virginia Valletti, owns 15 percent of the stock of Commercial Air, and the two daughters of the Valetti's each owns five percent of the stock of the business. Sam Valletti is not a minority person as defined in Section 288.703, Florida Statutes. Article II, Section 1 of the bylaws of Commercial Air provides that "All Corporate powers shall be exercised by or under the authority of, and the business affairs of the corporation shall be managed under the direction of, the Board of Directors." The bylaws state that the corporation shall have two directors. Those directors are Virginia and Sam Valletti. Article III, Section 2 of the bylaws of Commercial Air sets out the duties of the President of the company as follows: The President shall be the chief executive officer of the corporation, shall have general and active management of the business and affairs of the corporation subject to the directions of the Board of Directors, and shall preside at all meetings of the shareholders and Board of Directors. Commercial Air provides heating, ventilation, and air conditioning (HVAC) services and is required by Florida statutes to be qualified by a licensed contractor. Sam Valletti holds the contractor's license which qualifies Commercial Air. Virginia Valletti testified that she does not believe that she could pass the contractor's test to become the qualifying agent for the company. Sam Valletti is authorized to sign checks on the account of Commercial Air, but Virginia Valletti signs the majority of the checks for the business. Sam Valletti signed the business lease for Commercial Air. Sam Valletti or a male employee, signs the contracts on behalf of the business. According to Virginia Valletti, the two men sign the contracts for appearance sake because the HVAC business is a male-dominated industry. According to the application submitted to the Respondent, Department of Labor and Employment Security, Minority Business Advocacy and Assistance Office (Department), Virginia Valletti's major responsibilities in the business are as follows: Open and close office Monday through Friday Transact all accounts receivables and payables Answer customer calls and inquiry's [sic] all on customers to insure their needs are being met Dispatch technicians to job sites Compose all company forms and form letters and contract forms Track job costs Analyze profit & loss statement, balance sheet and other financial reports Oversee office personnel - hire, review (all personnel) and fire (office only) Shop and purchase all insurance (workman's comp., liability, bond, etc) Figure payroll and all associated taxes Negotiate credit lines and loans Track truck maintenance and inventory Place orders with vendors and track shipments to job sites The application submitted to the Department lists Sam Valletti's major responsibilities as follows: Estimates jobs in construction and service Troubleshoots equipment problems with technicians Recommends and designs new installations with property managers and owners Keeps up to date on So. Florida code changes, labor laws, and union regulations Finds new resources and seeks out leading edge technological advances Customer liaison for technical questions Hires, reviews, and fires service personnel Purchases company vehicles Sam Valletti receives approximately $16,000 per quarter in wages from Commercial Air, and Virginia Valletti receives approximately $3,000 in wages.
Recommendation Based on the foregoing Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law, it is RECOMMENDED that a Final Order be entered denying Commercial Air, Tech Inc.'s request for certification as a minority business enterprise. DONE AND ENTERED this 28th day of April, 1998, in Tallahassee, Leon County, Florida. SUSAN B. KIRKLAND Administrative Law Judge Division of Administrative Hearings The DeSoto Building 1230 Apalachee Parkway Tallahassee, Florida 32399-3060 (850) 488-9675 SUNCOM 278-9675 Fax Filing (850) 921-6847 Filed with the Clerk of the Division of Administrative Hearings this 28th day of April, 1998. COPIES FURNISHED: Joseph L. Shields, Esquire Florida Department of Labor and Employment Security 2012 Capital Circle, Southeast Suite 307, Hartman Building Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2189 Edmond L. Sugar, Esquire 950 South Federal Highway Hollywood, Florida 33020 Douglas L. Jamerson, Secretary Department of Labor and Employment Security Suite 303, Hartman Building 2012 Capital Circle, Southeast Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2189 Edward A. Dion, General Counsel Department of Labor and Employment Security Suite 307, Hartman Building 2012 Capital Circle, Southeast Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2189
Findings Of Fact Wanda Forbess is an American woman. She is the president of the Petitioner corporation, Center Office Products, Inc. She owns 5l percent of that corporation's outstanding stock. The stock is full voting stock and there are no agreements in existence or anticipated which would cause any change in the percentage of ownership of Wanda Forbess, nor any change in the voting power of her stock. The Petitioner corporation and Wanda Forbess has no affiliation or relationship with any other business and Wanda Forbess is not an employee of any other business. The net worth of the Petitioner as of the date of hearing is less than one million dollars. It has also been stipulated that the Petitioner, that is, Wanda Forbess, has been performing a useful business function and operating the Petitioner's business since 1981. Wanda Forbess is the mother of Thomas J. Forbess and Raymond D. Forbess and the wife of Thomas D. Forbess. In 1981 her children were almost out of school, with her youngest child being about to enter college. She decided she wanted to start her own business. She had been active as a homemaker, a volunteer and active member of civic organizations. She decided to enter the office supply retail business in 1981 because of the low initial investment required due to the presence of two wholesale suppliers in Jacksonville who could supply goods for inventory on a rapid basis. She also chose to enter this business because there were no particular special skills, training or licenses required and because she knew something about it, since her husband worked for twenty-five years in one phase of the business, that of sales of paper products. This decision being made, Ms. Forbess approached her sons, Thomas J. Forbess and Raymond D. Forbess, to persuade them to enter into the business with her. They agreed to join her in the venture and she set about to form the Petitioner corporation. She desired to incorporate in order to limit the liability which she and her sons would be exposed to in operating the business. She retained an attorney to incorporate the business, but paid no particular attention herself concerning how the shares were to be issued and held or as to the manner of appointment of the members of the board of the directors. She simply followed her attorney's instructions who advised her to do the "standard type" of incorporation. The corporation estab- lished by her attorney provided, in its by-laws, that there would be three directors. Wanda, Ray and Thomas Forbess were each named as directors since they were the only three individuals involved with the Petitioner at its formation. The attorney also issued stock certificates for 200 shares each to the three directors. Wanda Forbess was appointed as president and chief executive officer of the Petitioner corporation. This was because the formation of the business and the company was Mrs. Forbess' idea and she had provided more than five times the amount of capital of each of the other two owners, her sons. In fact, she had provided $11,000 of her own money as initial capital and her two sons provided $2,000 each. Notwithstanding their equal ownership status and the equal vote each of the three has on the Board of Directors, as well as the requirement in the bylaws that a majority vote of the Board is controlling, Mrs. Forbess has been in control of the Petitioner corporation's operations from the day of its inception. Her sons do not question that control and established the fact of it in their own testimony at the hearing. The vice- president is Raymond D. Forbess and the secretary treasurer is Thomas J. Forbess. The bylaws provide that the property and business of the corporation is managed by its Board of Directors and that a majority of those directors shall be necessary and sufficient to constitute a quorum for the transaction of business. The act of the majority of the directors present at any meeting at which there is a quorum shall be deemed to be the act of the board. It is also provided in the bylaws that the holders of the majority of shares of stock may remove a director at any time, with or without cause, at a duly called meeting. The president of the Petitioner is empowered to call such a meeting at any time. Any vacancy occurring as a result of removal of any director by the majority shareholders may be filled by the affirmative vote of the majority of remaining directors, even if less than a quorum shall be present. Directors are not required to be shareholders. Therefore, as a holder of 51 percent of the shares of the Petitioner, Wanda Forbess has control over the board of directors by the power to elect or remove any director by voting shares accordingly at a meeting which she may call at any time, with or without notice, as the president of the Petitioner corporation. Replacement directors could then be appointed by her vote alone and could be any person she elects, including, for example, an employee over who she has authority and who she may direct to vote a certain way. In any event, from 1981 through 1987, the Petitioner grew from a company with three employees to a company of 18 employees and more than $280,000 gross monthly sales. During this time, the Petitioner enjoyed some State of Florida contract business. Some time in 1987, Mrs. Forbess became aware that she would soon be unable to continue doing business with the state because her business was not a certified minority business enterprise. In fact, however, the Petitioner had been, from its inception, an American woman-controlled corporation in actual practice. On June 1, 1987, Mrs. Forbess directed her sons to convey sufficient stock to her so that she could become a 51 percent shareholder of the Petitioner corporation. This transfer was done to comply with section 288.703(2), Florida Statutes, concerning the definition of "minority business enterprise." It was also done to formally reflect what had been the case, as a practical matter, since the inception of the corporation: that Wanda Forbess controlled the Petitioner corporation. The company by that time had significant value reflected in the value of its stock, but neither son required payment for his stock which he conveyed to Mrs. Forbess. They considered that she was the controlling owner of the corporation from its inception anyway due to the fact that the business was her idea and that she had contributed by far the most significant amount of initial capital. Mrs. Forbess spends a majority of her time conducting the financial affairs of the Petitioner. She is more familiar and more involved with the financial affairs of the Petitioner corporation then any other owner, officer, director or employee. In that capacity, she sets all the salaries, including the salaries of her sons and her husband. All salaries are set completely at the discretion of Mrs. Forbess and always have been. She pays her two sons and her husband a higher salary than she pays herself because their financial requirements are greater, but the salient point here is that she is the manager with the discretion to set their salaries. In 1985, after the Petitioner had been operating successfully for four years, Thomas J. Forbess, the husband of Mrs. Forbess, retired from his position with Jim Walter Paper Company after 25 years of employment with that firm. Prior to that time he had no involvement with the formation, operation or management of the Petitioner corporation. He has never had an ownership interest in the Petitioner. He is an employee of the corporation and assists in some of the operations, including preparation and submittal of bids for some of the work the corporation undertakes. Mrs. Forbess controls the purchase of goods, equipment and business inventory and services used and needed in the day- to-day operation of the business. She frequently purchases significant items used in the business, such as computers, trucks, and postage machines, as well as inventory. In addition to this, the major purchases made by the business by any co-owner or employee must be made only with her approval. Evidence was offered showing the lease agreements and notes evidencing that corporate debts related to large purchases were signed by all corporate officers as a basis for an attempt to show that decisions are made by "consensus" or are joint decisions. However, the fact that lenders and lessors require all corporate officers to sign documents evidencing leases or debts does not mean each corporate officer had an equal part to play in making the decision involved. The record is replete with evidence and testimony from employees and the other owners that Wanda Forbess has a veto power on all decisions concerning purchases, loans, leases of real property and every other major business decision the Petitioner confronts. Further, the fact that discussions are had amongst the owners and officers of the business prior to making major decisions is really a sound business practice and does not mean that one of the owners, directors or officers does not have final authority to make a binding decision. The person who has final authority for such major decisions is Wanda Forbess. Mrs. Forbess also has the authority to hire and dismiss employees, a requirement of subsection 3(b) of Rule 13-8.005(3), Florida Administrative Code. She herself has interviewed employees from time to time and also has final authority to approve all hiring and discharge decisions or to veto them in those instances where she has delegated that authority. She controls which professional services are obtained by the Petitioner corporation, as shown by her decision to discontinue the services of the former company accountant. Indeed, she has delegated some of the hiring processes, given the fact that the Petitioner corporation has grown to be a business with 18 employees. That however, is a normal, acceptable business decision. The delegation of the advertising of a position, the interviewing of prospective employees and the conveying of offers of employment to prospective employees in no way indicates that the delegator does not have the final authority to hire or dismiss the employees. Wanda Forbess also controls all financial affairs of the Petitioner corporation. She thus has unsurpassed knowledge in relation to the other owners, officers and directors, of the financial structure and operations of the business. In fact, the bulk of her time spent working for the Petitioner, corporation since its inception, has been in the field of financial matters. She makes the decisions concerning debt to be incurred by the Petitioner, and approves any major expenditure, without which approval expenditures may not be made. It is significant that Mrs. Forbess has veto authority over the extension of credit to customers and establishment of credit accounts by customers. One instance was described by Jeannine Silcox and Raymond Forbess concerning Raymond Forbess' attempt to open an account to service a particular customer on a credit basis. Mrs. Forbess opposed that procedure and ordered that the account not be opened. The account was not opened. This demonstrates effectively that not only does Mrs. Forbess control the financial affairs of the company, but also wields ultimate authority amongst the co-owners of the Petitioner. Additionally, it is undisputed that Mrs. Forbess writes the vast majority of checks on the Petitioner's two checking accounts, in terms of the requirement, at subsection 3(D) of the above-cited rule, that she control the accounts of the business. She estimates that she writes 97 percent of the checks and there is no evidence to refute that estimate. Thomas J. and Raymond B. Forbess are each authorized signatories on the accounts, but their names are simply there as a matter of convenience and the only instances in which they sign checks are when there is an immediate need for the check to be paid and Mrs. Forbess is unavailable to sign herself. There is no question that Mrs. Forbess is the ultimate authority controlling the Petitioner's bank accounts. In order to comply with subsection 3(e) of the above cited rule, the minority owner must demonstrate capability, knowledge and experience in making decisions concerning the business involved. At the time of the business's inception, neither Mrs. Forbess nor her co-owner sons had the capability, knowledge or experience required to make many of the decisions concerning the retail office supply retail business. Over seven years of operation however, Mrs. Forbess has actively supervised and managed the business of the Petitioner and has developed to a high degree those attributes, in making decisions involved in operating that business successfully. She has delegated certain aspects of the company's business to the supervision of her sons. Thomas J. Forbess, for example, is involved in developing additional retail operations. Raymond B. Forbess is more actively involved in the delivery of merchandise to customers and the monitoring of customer accounts, as well as maintaining and accounting for inventory. Nonetheless, neither of the other owners effects any significant decisions without consulting Mrs. Forbess first and gaining her approval or veto. Through this supervision and control over the past seven years, as well as her current direct involvement in managing the Petitioner's affairs, Mrs. Forbess has developed the capability, knowledge and experience required to make decisions regarding the office supply business involved herein. Her operational and managerial capabilities are demonstrated by the fact that under her leadership the business started with three employees and has grown to an 18 employee business with gross sales in the neighborhood of $280,000 per month in just over seven years. Finally, Mrs. Forbess has displayed independence and initiative in conducting all major operations and details of the Petitioner since its inception, (as required by subsection (f) of the above rule). Although she has done little bid negotiating directly, she has the ability to do so and has some experience in that activity. Further, bid proposals are submitted to her for approval and are not made without her knowledge and assent. Further, she herself negotiates leases and other contracts on behalf of the Petitioner.
The Issue The issue is whether Petitioner is entitled to certification as a minority business enterprise.
Findings Of Fact By application dated February 6, 1998, Petitioner requested certification as a minority business enterprise. Respondent received the application on May 20, 1998, and denied the application on July 31, 1998. In denying the application, Respondent cited several reasons, including various rules, for why it was denying Petitioner's request for minority business certification. The letter cites Rules 38A-20.001(8) (statutory definition of "minority business enterprise") and (15) (lack of real control); and 38A-20.005(2) (ownership tests) and (3)(a) (control subject to restrictions), (b) (determining quorum of board of directors), (c) (minorities must be sufficiently capable and responsible to maintain control), and (d) (control may not be distributed among non-minority family members so that minority lacks dominant responsibility for management and daily operations, including purchase of inventory and equipment and financial control). Respondent does not dispute that Darlene S. Maki is a minority--i.e, female--and that Petitioner is a "small business concern." The application discloses that Petitioner is a Florida corporation in business as a machine shop. The application discloses that the only minority associated with the corporation is Ms. Maki, who at all times has owned 51 percent of the stock and serves as the president and treasurer. Initially, Mr. Maki's husband owned 14 percent of the shares; Mr. Rodhe owned 12.5 percent of the shares; Ms. Maki's other son, Michael Gritton, owned 12.5 percent of the shares; and Ronald Maki owned 10 percent of the shares. The application states that the initial board of directors consisted of three persons: Ms. Maki; her husband, Mark Maki; and one of Ms. Maki's sons, Randy L. Rodhe. In fact, the original board of directors consisted of Ms. Maki, her husband, her two sons, and Ronald Maki, the brother of Ms. Maki's husband. Petitioner is a family-owned and -operated business. Originally, Ms. Maki's husband served as vice-president, and Mr. Rodhe as secretary. The owners have had varying degrees of involvement in the corporation, ranging from Ms. Maki, who has been most involved, to Ronald Maki, whose involvement has been limited to his initial investment of $25,000. The only other persons to contribute cash for their shares were Ms. Maki and her husband. According to the application, Ms. Maki contributed $18,500, and her husband contributed $8000. The application understates their cash contributions. Individually, Ms. Maki contributed $32,000 in cash, which she raised by liquidating her Section 401(k) plan ($20,000) and bonds ($12,000). Individually, Ms. Maki's husband contributed $8000 in cash. Jointly, Ms. Maki and her husband contributed another $60,000 in cash, consisting of $30,000 in loan proceeds from a mortgage on their jointly owned home and $30,000 in charges on their joint credit cards. Prior to incorporating Petitioner in August 1997, Ms. Maki, who is 56 years old, had 20 years' experience working in a machine shop operating noncomputerized drill presses. She also worked five years as an assistant vice-president of a bank, supervising mortgage loan operations. Although Ms. Maki does not know how to operate the newer computer-assisted machines, her background would permit her to learn to do so with minimal training. However, due to a progressively debilitating disease that struck her in 1989, Ms. Maki is confined to a wheelchair and lacks feeling in her hands. Thus, she cannot efficiently operate the older manual machines or newer computer-assisted machines used in machine shops. Ms. Maki's husband lacks any experience in machining tools. He has worked over 25 years as an automobile mechanic. His brother has no experience in machining tools; he is in the construction business in Miami. Ms. Maki's sons have considerable experience in machining tools, including training and 14 and 20 years' experience in using the newer, more complicated computer-assisted equipment, which Petitioner owns. They received their stock in return for their agreement to work for wages well below what they could have earned elsewhere. Given the minimal cash flow and concerns about jeopardizing her Social Security disability payments, Ms. Maki did not withdraw money from Petitioner. However, her husband received a salary of an undisclosed amount until September 1998. Her sons also received a salary, but only about $100 weekly, mostly to cover their expenses. In May 1998, Mr. Rodhe terminated his involvement with Petitioner. At that time, he transferred his stock to Petitioner, apparently without any payment to him. The effect of this transfer was to increase Ms. Maki's percentage ownership of Petitioner. At the time of Mr. Rodhe's departure, his brother replaced him as secretary, and the board of directors were reduced to four members. These are the present officers and directors of Petitioner. Pursuant to the articles of incorporation, the board of directors directs the affairs of Petitioner. Nothing in the articles of incorporation overrides the provisions of Section 607.0824(1), Florida Statutes, which provides that a majority of directors constitute a quorum, or Section 607.0808(1), Florida Statutes, which provides that the shareholders may remove directors without cause. Ms. Maki and her husband are each authorized signatories of checks drawn on Petitioner's checking account. Each check requires only one signature. However, Mr. Maki does not typically sign the checks, consistent with his relatively little involvement with Petitioner. Someone at the bank suggested to Ms. Maki that Petitioner should authorize her husband to sign checks in case anything happened to Ms. Maki. Ms. Maki and her husband are the guarantors on a lease for a major piece of equipment used by Petitioner. In a later lease, the lender allowed only Ms. Maki to sign as a guarantor. Business has slowly been building. In July 1998, Petitioner hired a machinist and purchased another machine. When confronting a major decision, such as purchasing a new machine, Ms. Maki presents the issue to the board of directors, which then makes the decision. Ms. Maki solely handles hiring, firing, payroll, purchasing material, bidding, and scheduling jobs. She is present at the shop every workday from 7:30 AM to 4:30 PM and supervises all of the activities in the shop.
Recommendation It is RECOMMENDED that the Minority Business Advocacy and Assistance Office enter a final order denying Petitioner's application for certification as a minority business enterprise. DONE AND ENTERED this 25th day of January, 1999, in Tallahassee, Leon County, Florida. ROBERT E. MEALE Administrative Law Judge Division of Administrative Hearings The DeSoto Building 1230 Apalachee Parkway Tallahassee, Florida 32399-3060 (850) 488-9675 SUNCOM 278-9675 Fax Filing (850) 921-6847 www.doah.state.fl.us Filed with the Clerk of the Division of Administrative Hearings this 25th day of January, 1999. COPIES FURNISHED: Darlene Maki Qualified Representative RGM Precision Machine, Inc. 18923 Titus Road Hudson, Florida 34667 Joseph L. Shields Senior Attorney Department of Labor and Employment Security 2012 Capital Circle, Southeast Hartman Building, Suite 307 Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2189 Mary B. Hooks Secretary Department of Labor and Employment Security 303 Hartman Building 2012 Capital Circle, Southeast Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2152 Edward A. Dion General Counsel Department of Labor and Employment Security 307 Hartman Building 2012 Capital Circle, Southeast Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2152
The Issue Whether the Petitioner is entitled to certification as a minority business enterprise by the Florida Department of Labor and Employment Security, Minority Business Advocacy and Assistance Office (formerly known as the Commission on Minority Economic and Business Development).
Findings Of Fact Aqua Terra, Inc., is a corporation that was organized under the laws of Florida. Aqua Terra is a small business as that term is defined by Section 288.703(1), Florida Statutes. 1/ The work of the corporation requires expertise in geology and in environmental science. The work of the corporation also requires the services of an engineer for certain projects. Isidro Duque owns 51 percent of the stock of Aqua Terra. Mr. Duque is of Hispanic-American descent and is, consequently, a member of a recognized minority group. Richard Meyers owns 49 percent of the stock of Aqua Terra. Mr. Meyers is not a member of a minority group. Mr. Duque founded Aqua Terra on April 23, 1993. Mr. Duque and Mr. Meyers were coworkers at another company before Mr. Duque founded Aqua Terra. Mr. Duque was the sole shareholder and only officer of the corporation until March, 1994, when Mr. Meyers formally joined the company. When Mr. Meyers joined Aqua Terra in March, 1994, the parties negotiated the structure of the corporation. They agreed that Mr. Duque would retain 51 percent of the authorized stock of the corporation and that Mr. Meyers would be issued the remaining 49 percent. Mr. Duque was named the President, Treasurer, and a Director of the corporation. Mr. Meyers was named the Vice- President, Secretary, and a Director of the corporation. The Board of Directors consists of only these two directors. According to the bylaws of the corporation, all corporate powers are to be exercised under the authority of, and the business and affairs of the corporation shall be managed under the direction of, its board of directors. A majority vote of the board of directors is required. Mr. Duque is a professional geologist while Mr. Meyers is an environmental scientist. They both direct projects undertaken by the corporation and share the overall responsibility for such projects. Mr. Duque is primarily responsible for those aspects of a project that require expertise in geology. Mr. Meyers is primarily responsible for those aspects of a project that require expertise in environmental science. The corporation retains the services of a consulting engineer for projects that require certification by an engineer. The engineer the corporation uses for this purpose is not a member of a minority group. Both Mr. Duque and Mr. Meyers have the authority to transact any and all business on behalf of the corporation, including the signing of checks and bank drafts. Mr. Meyers and Mr. Duque actively participate in the daily operation of the corporation. Mr. Duque manages the business development activities of the corporation. Mr. Meyers manages the financial concerns of the corporation and is primarily responsible for purchasing. Mr. Meyers and Mr. Duque assert that Mr. Duque, as the 51 percent shareholder, retains the right to overturn any decision made by Mr. Meyers and that he retains ultimate authority to control the corporation. That right was not established since the existing authority to manage the corporation is, pursuant to the bylaws, vested in the Board of Directors. The managerial functions actually performed by both stockholders are essential to the operation of the company, and one was not established to be more important than the other. Petitioner failed to establish that Mr. Duque exercises dominate control of the affairs of the business.
Recommendation Based on the foregoing Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law, it is RECOMMENDED that Respondent enter a final order that denies Petitioner's application for certification as a minority business enterprise. DONE AND ENTERED this 27th day of August, 1996, in Tallahassee, Leon County, Florida. CLAUDE B. ARRINGTON, Hearing Officer Division of Administrative Hearings The DeSoto Building 1230 Apalachee Parkway Tallahassee, Florida 32399-1550 (904) 488-9675 Filed with the Clerk of the Division of Administrative Hearings this 27th day of August, 1996.
The Issue Whether the Petitioner should be certified as a minority business enterprise (MBE) by the Minority Business Advocacy and Assistance Office of the Department of Labor and Employment Security (Department).
Findings Of Fact The Petitioner, All Kinds of Blinds, was incorporated in the State of Florida on January 15, 1999, as All Kinds of Blinds of So. Fla., Inc. The President of the Petitioner is Angela Conroy, a female. Mrs. Conroy owns 51 percent of the company. The remaining 49 percent of the company is owned by Phillip Conroy, Angela’s husband. Mr. Conroy also serves as the company’s vice president and secretary. On June 2, 1999, Mrs. Conroy executed a Florida Statewide and Inter-local Minority Business Enterprise Certification Application that was filed with the Department. The application identified Angela Conroy as the person who makes policy, financial decisions, signs payroll, signs surety bonds and insurance, and makes contractual decisions for the Petitioner. The application also identified Phillip Conroy as the person who makes personnel decisions and signs payroll for the Petitioner. Mr. Conroy is authorized to sign checks on behalf of the company. According to the application, the Petitioner performs various functions regarding the sales, consultation, service, and installation of all types of window coverings. Mrs. Conroy sought MBE certification as an American woman with majority ownership of the Petitioner. Mrs. Conroy has ten years of experience in this type of business but was reluctant to let her former employer know that she was opening her own business. Accordingly, Mrs. Conroy authorized Mr. Conroy to execute applications and various papers on behalf of the Petitioner. She relied on his business experience to guide her through the start-up process. An initial loan in the amount of $4,000 from the couple’s joint bank account was the start-up funds for the Petitioner. Mr. Conroy does the installations for the Petitioner. He performs other functions for the company as may be necessary. He also owns and operates an air conditioning filter company that leased a vehicle also used for the Petitioner’s business. Mr. Conroy maintained that his name appears on records pertaining to the Petitioner as a convenience for his wife. Mr. Conroy is a white male.
Recommendation Based upon the foregoing Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law, it is RECOMMENDED that the Department of Labor and Employment Security, Minority Business Advocacy and Assistance Office, enter a final order denying the Petitioner’s application for MBE certification. DONE AND ENTERED this 28th day of April, 2000, in Tallahassee, Leon County, Florida. J. D. PARRISH Administrative Law Judge Division of Administrative Hearings The DeSoto Building 1230 Apalachee Parkway Tallahassee, Florida 32399-3060 (850) 488-9675 SUNCOM 278-9675 Fax Filing (850) 921-6847 www.doah.state.fl.us Filed with the Clerk of the Division of Administrative Hearings this 28th day of April, 2000. COPIES FURNISHED: Angela Conroy All Kinds of Blinds 123 North Congress Avenue Suite 328 Boynton Beach, Florida 33426 Joseph L. Shields, Senior Attorney Department of Labor and Employment Security 2012 Capital Circle, Southeast Suite 307, Hartman Building Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2189 Mary Hooks, Secretary Department of Labor and Employment Security 2012 Capital Circle, Southeast Suite 301, Hartman Building Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2189 Sherri Wilkes-Cape, General Counsel Department of Labor and Employment Security 2012 Capital Circle, Southeast Suite 307, Hartman Building Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2189
The Issue The central issue in this case is whether the Petitioner is entitled to certification as a minority business enterprise.
Findings Of Fact Iris Reed and her husband, Mark Reed, own and operate a business known as Reed Landscaping, Inc., the Petitioner in this cause. Mrs. Reed is an American woman and owns 60 percent of the subject business. Her husband owns the remaining 40 percent. The Reeds previously owned a lawn maintenance business in New York but moved to Florida several years ago and started doing business as "Landscaping and Lawn Maintenance by Mark." Eventually, approximately 1992, "Landscaping and Lawn Maintenance by Mark" changed its name to Reed Landscaping, Inc. As to Petitioner and all former entities, Mrs. Reed has held an office position with the company while Mr. Reed has operated the field crew or crews. Mr. Reed has the experience and expertise necessary to handle the work at each site for the business. On the other hand, Mrs. Reed has the office and management skills to direct the "paperwork" side of the business. This includes insurance matters and personnel for the office. Mrs. Reed is particularly active in this business since she put up the capital that largely funded the business enterprise. Although her personal financial investment is primarily at risk, creditors and bonding companies require both Reeds to sign for the company and to be individually obligated as well. Mrs. Reed serves as President/Treasurer of the Petitioner and Mr. Reed is Vice-President/Secretary. Both are authorized to sign bank checks for the company. Mr. Reed has formal training and education in landscape architecture and horticulture as well as extensive experience in this field. Mrs. Reed is responsible for many decisions for the company but relies on the opinions of others and delegates, where appropriate, duties to others as well. Among the delegated duties are: all field work for the company (delegated to Mr. Reed, another foreman, or to crews working a job); estimating or preparing bids (an estimator helps with bids); bookkeeping; contract review; and purchasing (some of which she does herself with input from others). As to each delegated area, however, the Reeds stress teamwork; that they are all working together for the common good of the company.
Recommendation Based on the foregoing, it is, hereby, RECOMMENDED: That the Petitioner's application for certification as a minority business enterprise be denied. DONE AND ENTERED this 16th day of May, 1996, in Tallahassee, Leon County, Florida. JOYOUS D. PARRISH, Hearing Officer Division of Administrative Hearings The DeSoto Building 1230 Apalachee Parkway Tallahassee, Florida 32399-1550 (904) 488-9675 Filed with the Clerk of the Division of Administrative Hearings this 16th day of May, 1996. APPENDIX TO RECOMMENDED ORDER, CASE NO. 95-5684 Rulings on the proposed findings of fact submitted by Petitioner: None submitted. Iris Reed on behalf of Petitioner submitted a letter summary of her position concerning the hearing which, if intended to be a presentation of fact, is rejected as argument or comment not in a form readily reviewable for either acceptance or rejection as required by rule. Rulings on the proposed findings of fact submitted by Respondent: Paragraphs 1 and 2 are accepted. Paragraph 3 is rejected as contrary to the weight of the credible evidence. Paragraphs 4 and 5 are accepted. COPIES FURNISHED: Joseph L. Shields Senior Attorney Commission on Minority Economic & Business Development 107 West Gaines Street 201 Collins Building Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2005 Iris F. Reed, Pro se 951 Southwest 121st Avenue Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33325 Veronica Anderson Executive Administrator Commission on Minority Economic & Business Development 107 West Gaines Street 201 Collins Building Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2005
Findings Of Fact General Contractors & Construction Management, Inc. (Petitioner), is a Florida corporation engaged in the business of general contracting and construction (construction and renovation of commercial and residential buildings), including subcontracting, since 1985. Petitioner's President is Ms. Akram Niroomand-Rad and its Vice-President is Mr. Kamran Ghovanloo, Ms. Niroomand-Rad's husband. Petitioner is a small business concern as defined by Subsection 288.703(1), Florida Statutes. Prior to April 1990, Ms. Niroomand-Rad owned 50 percent of Petitioner's stock. In April 1990, she acquired 100 percent of the stock and became the Petitioner's sole owner. Ms. Niroomand-Rad is a minority person as defined by Subsection 288.703(3), Florida Statutes. According to Petitioner's articles of incorporation and by-laws, its corporate business is conducted by a majority of the board of directors. Petitioner has two directors, Ms. Niroomand-Rad and Mr. Ghovanloo, 1/ and as such, the minority owner does not control the board of directors. Also, according to Petitioner's by-laws, Petitioner's President manages its business and affairs subject to the direction of the board of directors. Petitioner's licensed contractor is Mr. Ghovanloo who is a certified general contractor. Ms. Niroomand-Rad is not a licensed contractor although she is taking course work to become a licensed contractor. Mr. Ghovanloo is Petitioner's qualifier, and, as its qualifier, brings his expertise and license to the business. Further, as qualifier, he is also responsible for the finances of Petitioner and for pulling the necessary permits in order for Petitioner to perform the contractual work. Additionally, Mr. Ghovanloo performs Petitioner's estimating, handles quality inspection of job sites, assists in the evaluation and preparation of bids, and attends some of the pre-bid meetings on projects. Ms. Niroomand-Rad has been involved in soliciting bids, reviewing bids and estimates, negotiating contracts, visiting clients, responding to correspondence, overseeing financial activities, hiring and firing, and visiting job sites. However, Ms. Niroomand-Rad relies heavily upon Mr. Ghovanloo's technical expertise, expert opinions, and judgment and upon others for guidance and for handling the technical aspects of the business. Further, Ms. Niroomand-Rad relies heavily on Mr. Ghovanloo, and others to a lesser degree, regarding the purchasing of goods, equipment, or inventory, and services needed for the day-to-day operation of the business, including evaluating and retaining subcontractors. Mr. Ghovanloo is authorized to sign checks without restriction. Ms. Niroomand-Rad was reared in a construction environment. Also, she has completed a construction management course offered by the City of Miami and is a licensed real estate broker. Petitioner has been certified as an MBE by Dade County and the Dade County School Board.
Recommendation Based on the foregoing Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law, it is RECOMMENDED that the Commission on Minority Economic and Business Development enter a final order denying General Contractors & Construction Management, Inc., certification as a Minority Business Enterprise. DONE AND ENTERED this 24th day of July, 1995, in Tallahassee, Leon County, Florida. ERROL H. POWELL Hearing Officer Division of Administrative Hearings The DeSoto Building 1230 Apalachee Parkway Tallahassee, Florida 32399-1550 (904) 488-9675 Filed with the Clerk of the Division of Administrative Hearings this 24th day of July, 1995.
Findings Of Fact The Company, Al Raska Contractors, Inc., located at 503 South MacDill Avenue, Tampa, Florida, is a contractor which specializes in installing highway guardrails, rip rap, slope pavement, and signs. Between 1970 and 1980, it was owned by Al Raska and operated as a sole proprietorship. In February, 1980, it was incorporated by Al Raska, Jack Williams, and Dan Fisher, with Al Raska as president. (Testimony of Raska, R-1.) The Company began to experience financial difficulties. Mr. Raska concluded that it needed additional capital and new leadership. He realized that he "was not the one to carry the leadership of it. . . ." (Tr. 39.) Mr. Raska looked to Eugenio Ramos for help. (Testimony of Raska.) They reached an agreement. As a result, Eugenio Ramos -- an Hispanic residing in Texas -- became president and majority (51 percent) owner of the Company in September, 1980. In exchange, Mr. Ramos contributed $25,000 to the Company and established an additional $25,000 letter of credit. (The Company used the $25,000, in cash, to purchase equipment and defray operating expenses.) Mr. Raska became vice-president: . . . I stepped aside [to] do what I could do best, work in the field rather than run [the Company]. . . (Tr. 39.) Jack Williams remained as secretary-treasurer of the Company. (Testimony of Raska, Ramos, Williams.) II. Since September, 1980, Eugenio Ramos, 506 Lake Park, Waxahachie, Texas, has possessed the power to direct the management and policies of the Company, including the power to make day-to-day as well as major business decisions. In practice, he delegated authority to Mr. Raska and, to a lesser extent, to Mr. Williams to supervise and carry out the day-to-day operations of the Company. Mr. Raska, as the supervisor of field operations, corks at the Company's job sites, trains employees, does drawings, develops job estimates, signs payroll, schedules jobs, and maintains close contact with prime contractors. Because of Mr. Raska's years of experience and expertise, Mr. Ramos relies heavily on his advice. Mr. Williams also supervises the various job sites and assists in preparing estimates. (Testimony of Raska, Ramos, Williams.) All major business decisions, however, are made by Mr. Ramos, ordinarily after considering the advice of Mr. Raska. While job estimates are prepared by Mr. Raska, the decision to bid on a project is made by Mr. Ramos. No written contracts are signed without Mr. Ramos' approval. Mr. Raska and Mr. Williams, who Supervise field operations, were hired by and serve at the pleasure of Mr. Ramos. No heavy equipment may be purchased without Mr. Ramos' approval. (Testimony of Ramos, Raska.) Mr. Ramos communicates with Mr. Raska and Mr. Williams frequently, despite Mr. Ramos' residence in Texas. He visits the Company seven or eight times a year to meet with his Supervisors and discuss ongoing work. He spends approximately 97 percent of his time in Texas. But he communicates by telephone with the Company office on almost a daily or weekly basis. During one month, his telephone bill was $900. (Testimony of Raska, Ramos; P-5.) The Company has, under contract, jobs worth more than two million dollars. There are three projects now under construction. Although at hearing Mr. Ramos was familiar with the projects under construction, he could not recall some of the pertinent details. (Testimony of Ramos.) Sunil B. Nath administers the Department's Minority Business Enterprise Liaison Office. Chapter 14-78 is the Department's rule governing certification of minority business enterprises. Mr. Nath interprets this rule as requiring the minority owner to carry out the day-to-day operations of a company; in his view, a minority owner cannot delegate day-to-day management and retain eligibility for Minority Business Certification. (Tr. 150.) No basis was presented for this conclusion other than the language of the rule. (Testimony of Nath.)
Recommendation Based on the foregoing findings of fact and conclusions of law, it is RECOMMENDED: That the Company's application for certification as a Minority Business Enterprise be granted. DONE and RECOMMENDED this 12th day of October, 1982, in Tallahassee, Leon County, Florida. R. L. CALEEN, JR. Hearing Officer Division of Administrative Hearings The Oakland Building 2009 Apalachee Parkway Tallahassee, Florida 32301 (904) 488-9675 Filed with the Clerk of the Division of Administrative Hearings this 12th day of October, 1982.
The Issue The central issue in this case is whether Petitioner is entitled to be certified as a minority business enterprise.
Findings Of Fact Based upon the testimony of the witnesses and the documentary evidence received at the hearing, I make the following findings of fact: Certified General Contractors & Developers, Inc. is a Florida corporation organized to do business in this state. Jeri Dee Goodkin, at all times material to this case, has been the president and sole owner of Certified General Contractors & Developers, Inc. Ms. Goodkin is a minority person as that term is defined by Section 288.703, Florida Statutes. Jeri Dee Goodkin holds a general contractor's license, number CGC041575, which was issued by the Construction Industry Licensing Board. Ms. Goodkin is the only employee of Certified General Contractors & Developers, Inc. so licensed. The sole business of the company is to do general construction contracting. Ms. Goodkin's father, Ivan Goodkin, and brother, Mark Goodkin, are employed by the company. Both father and brother work as salesmen. They attempt to procure jobs for the company, and their responsibilities include estimating the price at which the work can be completed. Once the job is secured, Ms. Goodkin contacts subcontractors who submit bids for portions of the job. Ivan and Mark Goodkin may supervise the jobs they procure for the company. Ms. Goodkin is also responsible for supervision and must be on site for inspections performed by governmental agencies. According to two subcontractors with whom Petitioner has done business, Jeri Dee Goodkin negotiated and reviewed all work performed by the subcontractors. Prior to forming the Petitioner company, Ms. Goodkin and her father and brother worked for another company which was involuntarily dissolved by the Secretary of State. Ivan Goodkin was not an owner of the prior company. There is no evidence from which it could be concluded that the Goodkins owned or solely operated their prior employer. Jeri Dee Goodkin has executed a lease on behalf of the company.
Recommendation Based on the foregoing findings of fact and conclusions of law, it is RECOMMENDED: That a final order be entered approving Petitioner's request to be certified as a minority business enterprise. DONE and RECOMMENDED this 30th day of August, 1988, in Tallahassee, Florida. JOYOUS D. PARRISH Hearing Officer Division of Administrative Hearings The Oakland Buildinc 2009 Apalachee Parkway Tallahassee, Florida 32301 (904) 488-9675 Filed with the Clerk of the Division of Administrative Hearings this 30th day of August, 1988. APPENDIX Rulings on Proposed Findings of Fact submitted by Petitioner: Paragraphs 1,2,3,5.7,8,10,13,and 14 are accepted. Paragraph 4 is rejected as not supported by the record in this cause. Paragraph 6 is rejected as not supported by the record in this cause. Paragraph 9 is rejected as argument or comment unnecessary to the determinations and findings of fact. That portion of paragraph 11 which sets forth the license number for Jeri Dee Goodkin is accepted, the rest of the paragraph is rejected as not supported by the record in this cause. Paragraph 12 is rejected as not supported by the record in this cause. Paragraph 15 is rejected as argument, irrelevant or unsupported by the record in this cause. With regard to the subparagraphs listed under paragraph 16, the following findings are made: subparagraphs 2,3,7,10,13,and 27 are accepted. Subparagraph 28 is accepted to the extent that Jeri Dee Goodkin is the only licensee employed by the company. All other subparagraphs are rejected as unsupported by the record in this cause. Rulings on proposed findings of fact submitted by the Department: Paragraphs 1,2,3,4,8,9,10,11,13,and 15 are accepted. Paragraph 5 is accepted, however is deemed irrelevant and immaterial to the resolution of the issue in this case. The evidence does not establish nor suggest that the Goodkins had an ownership interest in the prior company with whom they were employed. Paragraph 6 is rejected as irrelevant and immaterial. Paragraph 7 is rejected as speculative or argument. At best the lease shows it was executed by Jeri Dee Goodkin. The "Mr.Goodkin" referenced on the lease is not explained either by the document itself or the record in this cause. Paragraphs 12 and 14 are rejected as a recitation of testimony, argument or irrelevant comment. COPIES FURNISHED: Deborah S. Rose Office of General Counsel Department of General Services Room 452, Larson Building 200 East Gaines Street Tallahassee, Florida 32399-0955 Jeri Dee Goodkin Certified General Contractors & Developers, Inc. 16375 Northeast 18th Avenue North Miami Beach, Florida 33162 Ronald W. Thomas Executive Director Department of General Services Room 133, Larson Building Tallahassee, Florida 32399-0955
Findings Of Fact Petitioner Coggin and Deermont, Inc. (C&D) has forty-odd employees. The company owns a building and, among other equipment, bulldozers, loaders, scrapers, graders, draglines, and dump trucks. Respondent's Exhibit No. 1. C&D clears, grubs, grades, and otherwise prepares roadbeds and constructs roads through the stage called "base work." C&D has qualified as a prime contractor with respondent Department of Transportation. The firm also builds culverts and storm drainage structures, including head walls, and does other concrete work. After Mr. Deermont died, at age 94, his partner carried on their road- building business with the help of Ralph C. Carlisle, a 25-year employee, and, until recently, president of C&D. Mr. Coggin died last year at 88, and the Carlisle family decided to acquire the rest of C&D's stock. Mr. Carlisle's wife Bertha, nee Lopez, had inherited Six Thousand Dollars ($6,000) from her father, who, like her mother, was born in Mexico. Blonde and blue-eyed, Mrs. Carlisle herself was born in the United States, on April 26, 1929. Petitioner's Exhibit No. 1. FAMILY BUYS COMPANY On February 10, 1982, the Carlisles bought all of C&D's stock Mr. Carlisle did not already own. They used Bertha's inheritance to make a Six Thousand Dollar ($6,000) cash payment and executed a promissory note in the amount of One Hundred Seventy-three Thousand, Three Hundred Twenty-five Dollars ($173,325), Petitioner's Exhibit No. 3, for the balance of the purchase price. The note was secured by a mortgage encumbering three parcels of real estate owned jointly by Ralph C. and Bertha L. Carlisle. Petitioner's Exhibit No. 2. The expectation is that income from C&D will make it possible for Mr. and Mrs. Carlisle to make the installment payments promised in Petitioner's Exhibit No. 3. C&D owes some Ninety Thousand Dollars ($90,000) to various banks. Mr. and Mrs. Carlisle are personally liable for some, if not all, of C&D's debt. They are not obligated to begin installment payments on the note they executed to pay for the stock until March 10, 1983. Mrs. Carlisle paid Two Hundred Twenty-five Dollars ($225) per share for her stock. (T. 58.) Only one hundred (100) shares are outstanding. Respondent's Exhibit No. 1. Mrs. Carlisle holds fifty-one percent (51 percent) of C&D's stock, and her husband holds thirty-four percent (34 percent). Mr. and Mrs. Carlisle have two sons, Ralph C. III and Richard D., to whom they gave ten percent (10 percent) and five percent (5 percent) of C&D's stock, respectively. All the Carlisles are directors of the corporation. Dividends have not been paid since the Carlisles took over. At some point, the Carlisles "decided [they] were going to apply for minority business enterprise [certification] and use [Mrs. Carlisle's] ethnic origin." (T. 64.) PRESIDENT'S DUTIES Mrs. Carlisle did not bring any particular expertise to C&D, even though she had accompanied her husband on some of his travels for C&D (without compensation). After graduation from high school, attendance at "business school," and two years as a clerk in a stock broker's office, she married Mr. Carlisle and began a twenty-five-year career as a housewife, which was interrupted recently by a two-year stint as an interior designer in a gift shop. (T. 65.) When she became majority stockholder, Mrs. Carlisle voted herself president of C&D. She succeeded her husband in that office. Her salary is One Thousand, One Hundred Twenty-Five Dollars ($1,125) weekly, and his is Eight Hundred Ninety-five Dollars ($895) 1/ weekly. They "combine" their salaries. (T. 90.) Machinery is not Mrs. Carlisle's strong point; she has some difficulty distinguishing among the different types of heavy equipment C&D uses. Field operations are not her primary concern. As a matter of company policy, she ordinarily visits job sites only in the company of her husband. (T. 63, 66- 67.) Her routine upon returning from site inspections she described as follows: [W]hen I come back I always check my mail and my phone calls or--something like that. Most of the time when I go out on the job, like I say, it's quite a distance away from home and I go back to the office and check to see what problems we have had, I have had. He checks his desk and I check my desk. And then we'll go on home and that's when we confer with our sons again. And business starts all over again. (T. 67-68.) She also buys most of the office supplies and signs weekly payroll checks, which are prepared by an employee and countersigned both by her husband and Patricia Kirkland, who keeps C&D's books. Mrs. Carlisle has only limited knowledge of basic accounting concepts. (T. 85-86.) She acts as C&D's "EEO representative," (T. 53) a task she took over from a secretary, Mrs. Cook. Mrs. Carlisle has other duties in connection with bid preparation. She reads some ten newspapers published in Chipley, Florida, and surrounds "to see which jobs are going to be coming up" (T. 50) and orders the plans for jobs C&D might be interested in; she and her husband ["he's the engineer and has all the experience . . ." (T. 51)] inspect the site; she inquires by telephone of "salesmen and people to get the prices" (T. 52) for pipe, concrete, and other materials, but does not negotiate prices. According to Mrs. Carlisle, her "husband is the one that is doing all of the figuring on the job," (T. 52) but Mrs. Carlisle works at figuring, particularly when she travels with her husband to Tallahassee. MINORITY OWNERS Both sons work for C&D and had held salaried positions with C&D before the Carlisles bought out the other owners. Their combined experience amounted to less than five years. The older boy, Ralph C. III, serves as corporate treasurer and as general superintendent "overseeing all the work that the company has under construction" (T. 20) and overseeing maintenance. He has power to hire and fire and has exercised it. As treasurer, he reviews a treasurer's report prepared by Mrs. Kirkland and signs rental agreements. He can operate every piece of equipment C&D owns. He has never supervised a road-building project from start to finish, but he worked on one project as a timekeeper and grade man from start to finish. He worked for C&D for a year after he graduated from high school. Since then he has had two years of college; he took math, engineering, and accounting courses. After college, he worked for Ardaman & Associates in Tallahassee for eight or nine months taking soil samples, before returning to C&D in February of 1982. He is paid Two Hundred Twenty-Five Dollars ($225) weekly. Richard D. works as foreman of a six-man crew, at a salary of One Hundred Seventy Dollars ($170) per week, and has full authority in the field in his father's absence, including the power to hire and fire the men he supervises. He began at C&D as a laborer. He has finished 60 hours of drafting technology courses at a junior college and may graduate in December. EFFECTIVE CONTROL As vice-president and general manager, answerable only to his wife, Ralph C. Carlisle has charge of C&D and manages day-to-day operations. He is trained as an engineer and does surveying for C&D. He is "the job estimator" (T. 90); he stakes out jobs and prepares cost reports. Richard D. Carlisle testified as follows: Q: Who do you report to? A: My daddy. Q: Do you receive instructions from him? A: Mostly. And I receive instructions from my brother and my mother. She will help us out. (T. 13.) Ralph C. Carlisle III testified, as follows: Well, basically I have the control of field supervising. If I make a decision in the field and it doesn't work then I ask [my father] to make a decision. That way he has a little more experience than I do, not a little more, a lot more. I make ninety- nine per cent of the decisions in the field. (T. 28-29.) He explained the lines of authority at C&D in these words: Totally to my mama, I'm totally responsible to her. But in the meantime I'm still re- sponsible to my daddy too. What I'm saying is, basically I do not have to report my day to day activities to anybody. If I have to, if there is something that arises I tell my mama first, being the stockholder, if she is available. If not then I go over it with my daddy. Basically my daddy and I have a little conference every evening on the field activ- ities, which my mama is also in on. We have a little conference every evening. We do report our activities to each other every evening. When it gets right down to it we don't have to. When asked whether decisions she makes in the field are joint decisions, Mrs. Carlisle answered: Yes. Just really because I'm president of the company that still doesn't mean -- that still means that we share it. My husband has a lot of say so just like I do. He has more knowledge in this field than I have. And this is what he is educated in too. (T. 70.) Mrs. Carlisle does not make policy for C&D by herself. (T. 76.) Mr. Carlisle is involved with all technical decisions. (T. 91.) The four owners live together as a family and discuss business at home as well as on the job.
Recommendation Upon consideration of the foregoing, it is RECOMMENDED: That respondent deny petitioner's application for certification as a minority business enterprise. DONE AND ENTERED this 9th day of September, 1982, in Tallahassee, Florida. ROBERT T. BENTON, II Hearing Officer Division of Administrative Hearings The Oakland Building 2009 Apalachee Parkway Tallahassee, Florida 32301 (904) 488-9675 Filed with the Clerk of the Division of Administrative Hearings this 9th day of September, 1982.