The Issue The issue in this case is whether Respondent's license should be summarily suspended in accordance with Subsection 550.2415(3)(b), Florida Statutes (2006).
Findings Of Fact The Division is the agency of the state responsible for monitoring and regulating all aspects of pari-mutuel wagering activities. One of its responsibilities is the testing of greyhound dogs for prohibited substances. Michaud holds pari-mutuel wagering license number 16293-1021 as a greyhound trainer. On June 23, 2006, Michaud was the registered trainer of a greyhound known as "Ikes Trudy." Michaud was working at the Sanford Orlando Kennel Club (also known and hereinafter referred to as "CCC Racing"). Ikes Trudy ran in the seventh race at CCC Racing on June 23, 2006, finishing fourth or fifth in that race. Upon conclusion of the race, a urine sample was taken from Ikes Trudy by a Division employee. The sample was taken in an area of CCC Racing set aside for that purpose. The testing site was not covered, i.e., it was open to the elements. However, there was no evidence of inclement weather at the time the test sample was taken. At the conclusion of each greyhound race, the winning dog is always tested. It is normal for the Division to randomly select another dog from the same race for testing as well. In this case, however, Ikes Trudy was specifically selected for testing by the Division. No other dog was randomly sampled. After the urine sample had been taken, a "Urine Sample Card" was completed by the Division employee, signed by Michaud, and placed in a coin envelope. The urine sample card identifies the greyhound as Ikes Trudy, the race track as CCC Racing, and the trainer as Michaud. The urine sample was then duly-processed and tested in accordance with procedures established by the Division. The test was performed at the University of Florida Racing Lab, a certified and accredited testing facility. David M. Tiffany supervised the testing procedure and signed the Report of Positive Result on the test sample. The test determined the presence of two metabolites of cocaine in the urine sample: Benzoylecgonine ("BZE") and Ecgonine Methyl Ester ("EME"). Cocaine is a Class 1 drug and is a prohibited substance in racing greyhounds. The BZE concentration in the sample was greater than 720 nanograms per milliliter or 720 ng/mL. The EME concentration was 62.9 ng/mL. The normal or average concentration of these metabolites, when found in a greyhound, is between 10 and 50 ng/mL. The highest level Mr. Tiffany had ever seen was approximately 120 ng/mL of BZE and that was in this same animal, Ikes Trudy. The question of how such a high concentration of these metabolites would affect an animal was not resolved at the final hearing. Michaud suggested such a level would kill the animal; Mr. Tiffany could not confirm that suggestion as factual. Mr. Tiffany did not think the extremely high concentration of metabolites in this test raised any questions about the testing process or its results.
Recommendation Based on the foregoing Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law, it is RECOMMENDED that a final order be entered by the Department of Business and Professional Regulation, Division of Pari-Mutuel Wagering upholding the summary suspension of the license of Chad E. Michaud. DONE AND ENTERED this 28th day of August, 2006, in Tallahassee, Leon County, Florida. S R. BRUCE MCKIBBEN Administrative Law Judge Division of Administrative Hearings The DeSoto Building 1230 Apalachee Parkway Tallahassee, Florida 32399-3060 (850) 488-9675 SUNCOM 278-9675 Fax Filing (850) 921-6847 www.doah.state.fl.us Filed with the Clerk of the Division of Administrative Hearings this 28th day of August, 2006. COPIES FURNISHED: Stefan Thomas Hoffer, Esquire Department of Business and Professional Regulation Division of Pari-Mutuel Wagering 1940 North Monroe Street Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2202 Chad E. Michaud 27 Jackson Court Casselberry, Florida 32707 Josefina Tamayo, General Counsel Department of Business and Professional Regulation Northwood Centre 1940 North Monroe Street Tallahassee, Florida 32399-0792 David J. Roberts, Director Division of Pari-Mutuel Wagering Department of Business and Professional Regulation Northwood Centre 1940 North Monroe Street Tallahassee, Florida 32399-0792
The Issue The issue in this case is whether Respondent, Srdan Saric, committed violations of Chapter 550, Florida Statutes (2005), and Florida Administrative Code Chapter 61D-6, as alleged in an Administrative Complaint filed with the Department of Business and Professional Regulation in DBPR Case Nos. 2005042972, 2005039423, and 2005042974, and amended January 30, 2006; and, if so, what disciplinary action should be taken against his State of Florida pari-mutuel wagering occupational license.
Findings Of Fact The Parties. Petitioner, the Department of Business and Professional Regulation, Division of Pari-mutuel Wagering (hereinafter referred to as the "Division"), is an agency of the State of Florida created by Section 20.165(2)(f), Florida Statutes, and charged with the responsibility for the regulation of the pari- mutuel wagering industry pursuant to Section 550.0251, Florida Statutes. Respondent, Srdan Saric, is, and was at the times material to this matter, the holder of a pari-mutuel license, number 2016930-1021, issued by the Division. During the time period at issue in this case, Mr. Saric trained harness race horses and was a jockey at the harness race course of Pompano Park Racing (hereinafter referred to as "Pompano Park"), located in Pompano Beach, Florida. Pompano Park is a harness horse racing facility authorized to conduct pari-mutuel wagering in Florida and is the location of all activity material to this matter. On July 27, 2005, Respondent was the trainer of record and jockey for two standard bred harness race horses, known as "Youngbro Clever" and "Swift Courier." Both horses were owned by Jeanette Glowacki. The Events of July 27, 2005. Youngbro Clever and Swift Courier were both scheduled to race at Pompano Park the evening of July 27, 2005. Youngbro Clever was to run in the fourth race and Swift Courier was to run in the twelfth race. The fourth race was scheduled to begin at approximately 8:15 to 8:30 p.m. Both horses were being housed in Barn C of Pompano Park. That barn was shared by the two horses being trained by Mr. Saric and horses owned and trained by Michael Snyder. Tack boxes, where equipment was stored, were located at Barn C adjacent to the wall just outside the horse stalls. Those located in the area where Mr. Saric's horses were housed were considered to be within areas of Barn C which he occupied or had the right to occupy. The tack boxes are part of the premises within the grounds of a racing permitholder where racing animals were lodged or kept and which Mr. Saric occupied or had the right to occupy. At approximately 7:30 p.m., on July 27, 2005, Jeremy Glowacki, the son of the owner of Youngbro Clever and Swift Courier and an employee Mr. Saric had previously fired, informed Pompano Park security supervisor Richard Masters that he had witnessed Mr. Saric place syringes in a tack box located just outside Barn C, Stall 8. Based upon Mr. Glowacki's report, Pompano Park security searched the tack box and found a 35 cc hypodermic syringe with needle attached and a 12 cc hypodermic syringe with needle attached. As a result of the discovery of the syringes, Youngbro Clever and Swift Courier were immediately scratched from their scheduled races and were sent to the State Veterinarian for drug testing. Mr. Saric was also suspended from Pompano Park and remained so at the time of the final hearing of this matter. The State Veterinarian drew blood serum sample 173675 from Youngbro Clever and blood serum sample 173680 from Swift Courier. These samples were processed in accordance with established procedures. Both blood serum samples were, along with the two syringes recovered from Mr. Saric's tack box, sent to the University of Florida Racing Laboratory (hereinafter referred to as the "Racing Laboratory"), for analysis. Results of Racing Laboratory Testing. The Racing Laboratory, following applicable procedures, performed an analysis on the syringes found in Mr. Saric's tack box and the blood serum samples taken from Youngbro Clever and Swift Courier. No prohibited substance was detected by the Racing Laboratory analysis of the 35 cc syringe. Flunixin was detected by the Racing Laboratory analysis of the 12 cc syringe. Flunixin is a "non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug" which can be used to suppress inflammation and provide pain relief to race horses. The Association of Racing Commissioners International, Inc. has classified Flunixin under the Uniform Classification Guidelines for Foreign Substances as a "Class IV" drug. As such, it is considered an "impermissible substance." Flunixin in excess of 200 ng/ml. was also found by the Racing Laboratory in blood serum sample number 173675 which had been collected from Youngbro Clever. Flunixin in excess of 200 ng/ml. was also found by the Racing Laboratory in blood serum sample number 173680, which had been collected from Swift Courier. In addition to Flunixin, the Racing Laboratory test of blood serum sample number 173675 collected from Youngbro Clever and blood serum sample number 173680 collected from Swift Courier also revealed that those samples contained phenylbutazone, or its metabolites, in excess of 16 micrograms per milliliter of serum. Like Flunixin, phenylbutazone is a "non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug" which can be used to suppress inflammation and provide pain relief to race horses. Pursuant to Florida Administrative Code Rule 61D- 6.008, phenylbutazone, unlike Flunixin, may be administered to a race horse in an amount which, following the running of a race, will result in the horse's blood serum being found to contain less than 8 micrograms per milliliter of serum. Dr. Cole testified convincingly and credibly that Flunixin and phenylbutazone had been administered to Youngbro Clever and Swift Courier within 24 hours of their scheduled races on June 27, 2005. Youngbro Clever and Swift Courier, having been administered Flunixin and phenylbutazone within 24 hours of their scheduled races, would have been able to compete at a higher level in their scheduled races than if these drugs had not been ministered to them. According to Dr. Cole, whose unrebutted testimony in this regard is also credited, if Youngbro Clever and Swift Courier had been allowed to run their scheduled races, blood samples collected immediately after their respective races would have revealed the presence of phenylbutazone in each horse in excess of 8 micrograms per milliliter of serum. Mr. Saric's Prior Disciplinary History. Mr. Saric has previously been disciplined by the Division on two separate occasions. On both occasions, Mr. Saric was fined because Methocarbamol (a skeletal muscle relaxant and Class IV drug) was detected in urine samples collected from Youngbro Clever as part of the post race analyses. The first violation for which Mr. Saric was disciplined took place on December 6, 2004. Mr. Saric was fined $250.00 for this violation of Section 550.2415(1)(a), Florida Statutes (2004), and Florida Administrative Code Rule 61D- 6.011(1). The second violation for which Mr. Saric was disciplined took place on April 15, 2005. Mr. Saric was fined $500.00 for this violation of Section 550.2415(1)(a), Florida Statutes, and Florida Administrative Code Rule 61D-6.011(1). Mr. Saric's Responsibility for Youngbro Clever and Swift Courier. While Mr. Saric attempted, unsuccessfully, to prove that he did not place the syringes in his tack box or inject Flunixin and phenylbutazone into Youngbro Clever and Swift Courier, the evidence failed to support such a finding. The evidence also failed to prove that Jeremy Glowacki was responsible for these violations. More importantly, the evidence failed to prove that Mr. Saric took the measures necessary to protect Youngbro Clever and Swift Courier in particular and the racing industry generally from harm, especially considering the fact that this case involves the third time that Youngbro Clever has tested positive for a prohibited substances in his blood.
Recommendation Based on the foregoing Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law, it is RECOMMENDED that the final order be entered by the Department of Business and Professional Regulation, Division of Pari-Mutuel Wagering, finding that Srdan Saric violated Sections 550.105(5)(b) and 550.2415(1)(c), Florida Statutes, and Florida Administrative Code Rules 61D-6.004(2) and 61D-6.011(1), as described in this Recommended Order; suspending his license for a total period of two years from the date of the final order; and requiring that he pay a fine of $6,000.00. DONE AND ENTERED this 14th day of April, 2006, in Tallahassee, Leon County, Florida. S LARRY J. SARTIN Administrative Law Judge Division of Administrative Hearings The DeSoto Building 1230 Apalachee Parkway Tallahassee, Florida 32399-3060 (850) 488-9675 SUNCOM 278-9675 Fax Filing (850) 921-6847 www.doah.state.fl.us Filed with the Clerk of the Division of Administrative Hearings this 14th day of April, 2006. COPIES FURNISHED: S. Thomas Peavey Hoffer Ralf E. Michels Assistants General Counsel Department of Business and Professional Regulation Division of Pari-Mutuel Wagering Northwood Centre 1940 North Monroe Street Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2202 Rose H. Robbins, Esquire One Boca Place 2265 Glades Road Suite 324 Atrium Boca Raton, Florida 33431 David J. Roberts, Director Division of Pari-Mutuel Wagering Department of Business and Professional Regulation Northwood Centre 1940 North Monroe Street Tallahassee, Florida 32399-0792 Josefina Tamayo, General Counsel Department of Business and Professional Regulation Northwood Centre 1940 North Monroe Street Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2202
The Issue The issue for disposition in this case is whether proposed Florida Administrative Code Rule 61D-6.0052 (Proposed Rule) is an invalid exercise of delegated legislative authority as defined in section 120.52(8), Florida Statutes.
Findings Of Fact Petitioner is a Florida for-profit corporation operating at the Palm Beach Kennel Club (PBKC) in West Palm Beach, Florida. Petitioner’s members are owners of greyhounds that are raced at the PBKC. Of the 12 greyhound kennels that operate at PBKC, nine are current members of Petitioner. Petitioner’s members each hold licenses issued by the Division pursuant to chapter 550, Florida Statutes. Some of the PBKC kennel owners are themselves licensed greyhound trainers, and some employ licensed trainers. Petitioner’s Articles of Incorporation establish its purposes as including the promotion of “the welfare and care of greyhounds, . . . including, but not limited to, . . . promoting fair regulatory treatment of the greyhound industry.” The Division is the state agency charged with regulating pari-mutuel wagering activities in Florida pursuant to chapter 550. The Proposed Rule The full text of the Proposed Rule is as follows: 61D-6.0052 Procedures for Collecting Samples from Racing Greyhounds Designating Greyhounds for Sampling: Any greyhound the judges, division, track veterinarian, or authorized division representatives designate, shall be sent immediately prior to the race to the detention enclosure for examination by an authorized representative of the division for the taking of urine and/or other such samples as shall be directed for the monitoring and detection of both permissible and impermissible substances. When possible, a sample should be collected from two (2) greyhounds per race. When possible, greyhounds from more than one participating kennel should be sampled per performance. Additional greyhounds may also be sampled if designated by the judges, division, track veterinarian, or authorized division representatives. Collection of Samples: Urine and/or other samples shall be collected by an authorized representative of the division in an unused sample container supplied by the division, or its agent. Authorized representatives of the division shall wear unused gloves supplied by the division, or its agent, during sample collection until the sample container is sealed with its lid. Authorized representatives of the division shall use a sample card with a unique identifier to record the date of sample collection and the identification tattoo, microchip or name of the greyhound sampled or attempted to be sampled. The owner, trainer of record, or other authorized person is permitted to witness when the sample is collected from their greyhound. Failure of an owner, trainer of record or other authorized person to witness and/or sign the sample card shall not preclude the division from proceeding with sample analysis. Sealing and Labeling of Samples: As soon as possible after a sample is collected, the sample container shall be sealed with its lid. The sample container shall be labeled with the sample card’s unique identifier. Evidence tape shall be placed over both the sample container and lid on at least two sides. The authorized representative of the division that sealed the sample container shall initial the evidence tape on the sample container. Storing and Shipping of Samples: The samples shall be stored in a lockable freezer or container in a restricted area accessible by only authorized representatives of the division until the time of shipment. Upon the completion of packing the samples for shipment, the shipping container shall be locked. All appropriate forms for shipment shall be completed and included with the shipment to ensure correct delivery and identification of the contents. The samples shall be shipped to the laboratory under contract with the division for testing of the samples via the laboratory’s contracted common carrier. Authority of the Division: The division investigator or other authorized representative is authorized to confiscate any legend or proprietary drugs, medications, unlabeled medication, medication with altered labels, medicinal compounds (natural or synthetic) or other materials which are found on the grounds of greyhound race tracks and kennel compounds or in the possession of any person participating in or connected with greyhound racing, including veterinarians and trainers, and which are suspected of containing improper legend or proprietary drugs, medications, medicinal compounds (natural or synthetic) or other materials which are illegal or impermissible under these rules. Such legend or proprietary drugs, medications, unlabeled medication, medication with altered labels, medicinal compounds (natural or synthetic) or other materials shall be delivered to the laboratory under contract with the division for analysis. The division is authorized to confiscate any evidence that an illegal or impermissible legend or proprietary drug, medication, or medicinal compound (natural or synthetic) may have been administered to a racing animal. It is a violation of these rules for a licensee to threaten to interfere, actually interfere or prevent the taking of urine, blood, saliva or other samples authorized by Chapter 550, F.S. For such a violation, the division may impose any disciplinary penalties authorized by Chapter 550, F.S., or the rules promulgated thereunder. Rulemaking Authority 120.80(4)(a), 550.0251(3), 550.2415(12), (13) FS. Law Implemented 120.80(4)(a), 550.0251, 550.1155, 550.2415 FS. History–New . Issues for Disposition Section 120.56(2)(a) provides that “the agency has the burden to prove by a preponderance of the evidence that the proposed rule is not an invalid exercise of delegated legislative authority as to the objections raised.” The “objections raised” as identified in the Joint Pre- hearing Stipulation are those that remain for disposition in this proceeding, with issues not preserved having been waived. See Palm Beach Polo Holdings, Inc. v. Broward Marine, Inc., 174 So. 3d 1037 (Fla. 4th DCA 2015). As set forth in the recitation of “Petitioner’s Position,” the following issues are at issue: The proposed rule refers to urine and/or other samples in its text, yet only contains procedures for urine collection; The proposed rule fails to adequately detail necessary chain of custody procedures for sampling racing greyhounds; The proposed rule ignores basic scientific principles as to contamination; The proposed rule ignores basic scientific principles as to the timing of sampling; The proposed rule ignores basic scientific principles as to the temperature of a sample; The proposed rule fails to provide trainers and owners of an opportunity to witness their greyhounds' sampling; The proposed rule grants too much discretion to Respondent; Respondent failed to follow the applicable rulemaking procedures set forth in chapter 120; The proposed rule does not limit its application to urine; Stipulated Facts The following facts were stipulated by the parties: It is possible that a racing greyhound could become exposed to environmental substances during the time between the trainer relinquishing it at the track and the sampling. The reason that racing greyhounds are tattooed is for identification purposes. It is important to prevent contamination of a racing greyhound's sample. It is important to preserve the integrity of a racing greyhound's sample. The Proposed Rule does not require racing greyhound samples to be stored frozen. However, subsection (4)(a) of the Proposed Rule requires that the samples are stored in a lockable freezer or container. The Proposed Rule does not require that the racing greyhound samples be kept refrigerated. However, subsection (4)(a) of the Proposed Rule requires that samples be stored in a lockable freezer or container. The Proposed Rule does not contain any provisions for the drawing of blood, "other specimens," or other fluids from the racing greyhound. The Proposed Rule does not describe how all the individuals involved in the chain of custody of a racing greyhound sample record their involvement. The Proposed Rule contains a section entitled "Sealing and Labeling of Samples." The Proposed Rule does not describe the chain of custody for the taking of "other specimens" from the racing greyhound. The Proposed Rule does not describe the chain of custody procedures associated with materials confiscated under paragraph five of the Proposed Rule. Respondent published its Notice of Development of Rulemaking for Proposed Rule 61D-6.0052, F.A.C. (Notice of Development), on January 22, 2018. Respondent published its Notice of Proposed Rule 61D- 6.0052, F.A.C. (Notice of Proposed Rule), on January 29, 2018. Respondent's Notice of Proposed Rule 61D-6.0052, F.A.C., indicated it was approved by the agency head, Jonathan Zachem, on January 26, 2018, a mere [four] days after publication of Respondent's Notice of Development of Rulemaking for Proposed Rule 61D-6.0052, F.A.C. On February 6, 2018, a rule development workshop was requested for Proposed Rule 61D-6.0052, F.A.C. Respondent did not hold a rule development workshop for Proposed Rule 61D-6.0052, F.A.C. Respondent did not provide an explanation in writing as to why a workshop was unnecessary for Proposed Rule 61D-6.0052, F.A.C., other than Bryan A. Barber's letter of February 13, 2018. Facts Adduced at Hearing The purpose and effect of the Notice of Development was “to further clarify and describe the procedures performed by the Division in collecting samples from greyhounds and to create a rule specific to the greyhound sample collection. The Notice of Proposed Rule did not contain a statement of estimated regulatory costs imposed on small businesses. On February 6, 2018, Petitioner, through its representative, sent a letter to the Division requesting a rule development workshop. On February 13, 2018, the Division noted that the “rule development phase” ended with the publication of the Notice of Proposed Rule, and the request for a workshop was, therefore, untimely. There is no evidence that anyone provided the Division with information regarding a statement of estimated regulatory costs, or provided the Division with a proposal for a lower cost regulatory alternative. No one requested that a public hearing be held on the Proposed Rule. Racing greyhounds are delivered to the track by their owners or trainers prior to the commencement of their race card. Greyhounds racing during the matinee card are delivered at one time, and greyhounds racing during the evening card are delivered at a later time. The greyhounds are all weighed in about 60 to 90 minutes prior to the first race, regardless of the race in which a particular greyhound is scheduled to appear. After weigh-in, the greyhounds are handed over to the “lead-outs,” who are track employees, and taken to the ginny pit. Each greyhound is then placed in a numbered cage designating its race and position, and held there until its race is scheduled to commence. From the time an animal is given over to the lead-outs until its race is over, they are out of the control and sight of the owners and trainers. For greyhounds racing in the last race of a card, that period can be well in excess of four hours. Prior to each race, the race judge, Division, track veterinarian, or “authorized division representative” designates the greyhounds to be tested for that race. The process was not described, other than as described in the rule that “[w]hen possible, a sample should be collected from two (2) greyhounds per race. When possible, greyhounds from more than one participating kennel should be sampled per performance.” Mr. Ehrhardt testified that “ideally it’s blind and that you just pick one at random,” and that dogs from separate kennels be selected “to ensure that no one is singled out.” However, the Proposed Rule contains no criteria for the selection of an animal other than its being in the race. Even a requirement that the selection be random, and a mandatory selection of different kennels be made “when possible,” is sufficient to preclude an unfettered exercise of discretion in the selection of the greyhound. As it is, the selection of both dogs and kennels is completely within the discretion of the Division. Upon selection, the greyhounds are led to an open area to relieve themselves. At the Orange Park Kennel Club, the area is a restricted access grass and sand area surrounded by a chain link fence. There was no evidence as to other tracks, but there is little to suggest that the areas at other tracks are dissimilar. The process of collecting the sample involves watching the dog for a sign that it is ready to urinate, and then holding a plastic cup at the end of a stick, an “armed doohickey” as described by Mr. Ehrhardt, under the dog until it produces a sample. The sampler wears fresh gloves and uses an unused cup. When the sample is collected, the sampler places the lid on the container, labels the container, and places evidence tape “over both the sample container and lid on at least two sides.” After the sample cup is capped, labeled, and sealed, it is placed in a “lockable freezer or container in a restricted area.” Mr. Ehrhardt indicated that it was the Division’s intent that the freezer or container should be locked at all times that it is not being accessed to place samples in it, and that it should not be left unlocked. However, the plain language of the rule suggests otherwise. The lockable container is to be in a restricted area, but is only required to be locked “[u]pon completion of the packing of the samples for shipment.” Dr. Tobin testified that samples must be kept frozen or, at a minimum, refrigerated. Mr. Ehrhardt testified that once a sample is collected, it goes “straight to the freezer,” suggesting that freezing is the preferred method of storage. Failure to do so can result in degradation of the sample, bacterial growth, and, in certain cases, breakdown of substances into metabolites that would more closely mimic a prohibited substance in a dog’s urine. Petitioner argued that the timing of the sampling is problematic for another reason, other than the holding period for the greyhounds. Many owners and trainers have more than one dog racing during a card. The ginny pit and the finish line are at different ends of the track. Therefore, a trainer or owner may be collecting their dog(s) at the conclusion of a race at the same time the pre-race sample is being taken for the next race, making observation of the sampling difficult from a practical perspective. However, both Mr. Agganis and Mr. Chin acknowledged that there was nothing to directly prevent an owner or trainer from observing the sampling. Furthermore, there is nothing to prevent the owner or trainer, or even Petitioner’s members collectively, from having an employee or agent witness the sampling on their behalf, since the rule allows “[t]he owner, trainer of record, or other authorized person” to witness the sampling. In no fewer than 10 places in the Proposed Rule, actions are authorized to be taken by an “authorized representative” of the Division, or an “other authorized person.” The Proposed Rule does not identify who those representatives or persons might be, or how they may come to be authorized. Mr. Ehrhardt testified that the purpose of the less definitive description was “to figure out a way to make the rule flexible,” to meet the possibility that a “job title is going to change.” During Mr. Ehrhardt’s visit to the Orange Park greyhound racing facility, he was allowed into the restricted ginny pit area by “authorized personnel from the division,” who he described as “veterinarian assistants, chief inspector, investigators, people like that.” Petitioner objected to the lack of specificity because it provided no assurances that these individuals are competent, or held to any particular standard.